pizza stones -- do you use yours?
i just bought a pizza stone -- couldn't resist, since it was on sale seriously cheap. i thought it would be useful if i were to bake the no knead bread recipe that mark bittman wrote about. i would love to know how serious eaters use theirs and whether anyone has suggestions as to how to season and care for them.
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19 Comments:
i love my pizza stone, however, it is not the right tool for the bittman no knead bread, as you want an enclosed container to retain humidity. thats why he says to use a cast iron dutch oven with a lid. however, for pizza, its very effective. the key is to get it DAMN HOT. i preheat mine to 550 for about half an hour before putting the pie on it. also, i have found that not washing it (i just brush it off once it's cooled) helps it develop and nice non stick coating. this lets you get the pies off really easily and gives you and nice char on the bottom. there is a sort of break in period at first, sort of like an unseasoned cast iron skillet. have fun!
seyo at 11:28PM on 11/29/07
oops! you're right, it wasn't bittman. it was from last week. here's the link although i don't know if i can make it clickable.
[url]http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/21/dining/211brex.html?ref=dining[/url]
cybercita at 12:25AM on 11/30/07
Love my pizza stone for pizza and bread. It gives great oven spring under a loaf of bread and yields a very crisp crust on pizza. It can be tricky to transfer the completed pizza from the peel to the stone but lots of cornmeal on the peel usually does the trick.
The more you use it the darker it will get and the more "nonstick" it will be.
therealchiffonade at 6:01AM on 11/30/07
Love a stone! As stated above, don't wash! And definately don't use soap of any kind on it as the stone will absorb the soap and you will have soapy tasting food.
One of the best ways to start seasoning a stone is to cook a package of "doughboy" crescent rolls on it. Then just keep using it. I use my stones (yes I have more than one!) for pizzas, cookies, breads, french fries etc.
Nothing sticks, nothing burns, it is all good!
SayWhat at 7:17AM on 11/30/07
I love my stone, well actually I just use 4 unglossed quary tiles that i got at lowes for like $3. I much prefer the quary tiles and there is no real breaking in to speak of.
Eroca at 9:25AM on 11/30/07
I hide mine away because it got really ugly with black stains, but when I want to cook or reheat pizza.......just roll it out from between the fridge and cabinet, wipe it off and get it screaming hot in the oven.
PerkyMac at 11:49AM on 11/30/07
One way to make good hearth loaves on a stone is to put a hotel pan on the bottom rack, under the stone, filled with near boiling water. put it in about 10 minutes before you put your loaf in so that it gets good and hot. this will give you some hot steam in your oven. You remove it from the oven after about 70% of your baking time. You will have to play around with this to suit the particulars of your oven and your dough. The steaming delays the caramelization of the crust and allows the bread to puff up and get nice and springy. after you remove it, then your crust will will cook.
seyo at 12:18PM on 11/30/07
I use mine all the time in winter for pizza -- either from scratch or reheating slices from the neighborhood pizzeria.
If you don't have one yet and are thinking of getting one, may I suggest the square or rectangular type? The round kind forces you to be very precise about where you slide your pie, while the extra space of the rectangular kind is more forgiving.
Adam Kuban at 12:44PM on 11/30/07
Hi, I just joined, and already I've learned something. I guess I've been cleaning my quarry tiles too much. Every time they get too messy, I clean them with my oven's self-cleaning cycle, and they look brand new again. Perhaps I'm too tidy for my own good!
Channa at 12:48PM on 11/30/07
Like PerkyMac, I hide mine too in between uses. My stone also has ugly black stains all over it, but that is inevitable as any drop of grease/oil will cause a stain. Just use warm water to scrub the stone after using it.
The stone can also be left in the oven all the time as it will help retain heat, lessen the effects of hots spots and temperature fluctuations. If you do keep it in the oven full-time, place it on a lower rack with some foil over it to prevent drippings and staining of the stone.
SundayNiteDinner at 12:52PM on 11/30/07
I love my stone and use it all the time. It is black with use. I don't clean it, just some hot water.
I love it for cookies and bread, also.
Urban Mom at 1:07PM on 11/30/07
I'm just like PerkyMac and SundayNiteDinner -- my poor stone is hideously ugly after three years. I don't use it all that often, since we don't do much pizza or bread anymore at my house, but when I do I'm always so happy with the results it produces. :)
sheeats at 6:46PM on 11/30/07
I too love my stone. I leave mine in my oven at all times except when cleaning the oven even though I have to pre-heat my oven 10 minutes longer when precise baking temp is critical for a recipe (cakes mostly). I have it placed on the lower rack with the upper rack right above it where most non-yeasty things cook. Over time, the stone will season itself if left in the oven. You'll be more likely to use it if you leave it in your oven all the time. I see some great advice in this thread!
kathyvegas at 7:49PM on 11/30/07
I love my pizza stone. When I'm not making pizza on it, I just leave it on the bottom rack of the oven to help maintain a more constant temperature. More like a brick oven. I rinse it off, but it doesn't usually get dirty, just stained with time. I think the dark areas are just a sign you aren't afraid to use it. Don't worry about it looking unattractive.
FigswithBri at 7:55PM on 11/30/07
i just made that bread recipe from the times. it was so easy -- mix flour, water, salt and yeast, let it rise, form the loaves, let rise, and bake. no kneading. the loaves, made on my new pizza stone, are incredibly crusty, are perfectly formed, and taste wonderful! unbelievable!
next time i think i'll invest in a pizza peel to slide them onto the stone. it was a bit tricky and messy with the fish spatula i used instead.
cybercita at 3:10PM on 12/01/07
Pizza stones are wonderful! I too have one really ugly black stained one that I hide from prying eyes and another shiny and pretty one that I use when guests are over so that I don't frighten them from the kitchen.
Do any of you feel that a particular brand of stone is better than others? My darker stone is from a department store and the newer stone is from Pampered Chef (what else are you supposed to buy when your co-workers come knocking at your cubicle with their catalogs...)
Erin at 5:16PM on 12/01/07
My stone is mighty stained and black too, but I used it last night to make pizza from naan dough. I have yet to use it for any other breads, but I'd definitely try it.
hereandthe at 6:51AM on 12/03/07
Mine is nasty looking but never ever leaves my oven. It regulates heat well and helps put that tasty crust on my pizzas. Yeah!
Bunnyman at 2:20PM on 12/03/07
Wow, Urban Mom - I've never thought of using my stone for cookies - I love that idea! How does it affect them?
I use mine all the time for pizza and it's fantastic. Definitely agree on not washing -- I just brush it off. If some sauce drips on it I just spot wipe with a lightly moistened paper towel.
CookiePie at 10:29AM on 12/04/07