PrintWhy is organic important to you? Organic vs Local?
Carcinogens are highly represented by the ingredients of vegetables theirselves and trace amounts are only found in pesticide sprays. Dr Ames (who the Ames test is named after) says that media blows things out of proportion. WAY OUT. It is said by reputable sources that media is scientifically and economical idiots and should only be good for reporting the days events as facts...Scientists today (though of course not the ones that don't agree with media buzz or help to sell add space/time/papers) agree that a lot of the hype over going organic was the presses fault for trying to run with stories that were simply not true or used statistics and 'facts' from other media sources and that involves a 'circular' dependancy on unreliable sources. In fact, the governments idea of being organic is not really organic at all...why not support 'local' for the obvious reasons and let your garden grow using 'chemicals' in their proper proportions that have been formulated. lab tested, and time proven to help your garden grow?
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tyronebcookin at 12:38AM on 06/13/07
John Stossel's & Dr Ames: media=no good, pesticide residue=largely harmless, food irradiation=saves lives...
read it here: http://abcnews.go.com/2020/Stossel/story?id=1898820&page=1
tyronebcookin at 12:49AM on 06/13/07
I think people should buy local organic. Pestisides may not exist in large quanitities in our food, but they do harm the environment. In addition, organic generally means no genetically engineered foods (livestock and veggies/grains), which is important to me as that science is too young at this point to know the affects. Also, organic generally means no antiboitics or other strange things being fed to livestock.
However, I agree that not enough attention is paid to the benefits of locally grown food. This also has a large impact on our environment and the quality/freshness of the products.
The media of course blows things out of proportion. Anyone who trusts everything they see or read in American media will live a life devoted to fads. This is unfortunate, but there is not much that can be done. All each of us can do is educate oursevles and do what we think is right.
foodette at 1:37AM on 06/13/07
foodette:
Lets take this one for example-
Irradiation of food has been around for some time, but the damage of media still have people fighting its use. It causes no mutation, preserves food, does not tamper with its nutrients and passes thru it...actually food has 'natural' radioactivity from things like potassium. So not all forms of radiation are bad. And this radiation passes thru...This science has been around for a long time.
http://agham.asti.dost.gov.ph/1998/6th/extras/tudoy/tudoy4.htm
Irradiation started being used on foods in the 1950's by the Army. Most dry spices you buy have been irradiated.
Exactly which sciences are you talking about and how old do they need to be? What constitutes young science? How many years?
tyronebcookin at 7:49AM on 06/13/07
I think we are missing one part of the picture. We on this board can afford spending time and extra money buying local or organic. Most can't or just don't care.
Saying that - I skew toward buying local. Regardless if it is organic or not. This is more to support my local economy and environment than anything else.
But I am also a big believer in science. I fully support genetically modified foods and irradiation. After all we've been messing with our food since we figured out fire.
shea at 8:37AM on 06/13/07
I agree with shea - I'm all about the local farmer who carts his produce to the street corner every day and sits on the tailgate of his truck selling 'maters and cucumbers and various other vegetables. I grew up with a fresh garden each summer (my Mom still tends it, though it is smaller by comparison to her younger days) with corn and peas and new potatoes and cabbage ... good stuff, grown locally (very locally in my case, right outside the back doo) and without ANY pesticides or enchancement.
Although, my Grandmother will never, ever, plant a tomato without throwing copious amounts of chicken dung around the plants ... she swears by it.
In any case, in the 'local vs. organic' battle, I'd choose local anytime - most local is going to BE organic by its very nature, so you win either way.
rbryants at 9:52AM on 06/13/07
I agree with shea - I'm all about the local farmer who carts his produce to the street corner every day and sits on the tailgate of his truck selling 'maters and cucumbers and various other vegetables. I grew up with a fresh garden each summer (my Mom still tends it, though it is smaller by comparison to her younger days) with corn and peas and new potatoes and cabbage ... good stuff, grown locally (very locally in my case, right outside the back door) and without ANY pesticides or enchancement.
Although, my Grandmother will never, ever, plant a tomato without throwing copious amounts of chicken dung around the plants ... she swears by it.
In any case, in the 'local vs. organic' battle, I'd choose local anytime - most local is going to BE organic by its very nature, so you win either way.
rbryants at 9:53AM on 06/13/07
I agree with shea - I'm all about the local farmer who carts his produce to the street corner every day and sits on the tailgate of his truck selling 'maters and cucumbers and various other vegetables. I grew up with a fresh garden each summer (my Mom still tends it, though it is smaller by comparison to her younger days) with corn and peas and new potatoes and cabbage ... good stuff, grown locally (very locally in my case, right outside the back door) and without ANY pesticides or enchancement.
Although, my Grandmother will never, ever, plant a tomato without throwing copious amounts of chicken dung around the plants ... she swears by it.
In any case, in the 'local vs. organic' battle, I'd choose local anytime - most local is going to BE organic by its very nature, so you win either way.
rbryants at 9:53AM on 06/13/07
Check out the NPR: Food podcast from 05/24/07. It is available for free at the itunes store. The 2nd feature is: "Will Work for Food: Couple Fills Plates Locally"
It is all about a Canadian couple who decided to only purchase and eat foods grown within 100 miles. They did this for a year and are publishing a book about their experience. Enlightening to say the least.
2qrs at 3:54PM on 06/13/07
For me local is the best way to go....not only am I helping the local economy...and eating FRESHER food....I also know WHO grows my food....so if there is a problem....I know who to go back to.
I grow my own vegetables in the summer, the rest I get from local farmers & my CSA. In the winter the only vegetables I might buy fresh would be potatoes, onions & greens....and even then my potato & onion source is local. I will admit that I do use frozen vegetables....and I am leaning more towards organic than anything...simply because I feel the fewer chemicals in my system, the better.
The Northeast has the highest cancer & birth defect rates around....I'm just 20 so miles south of the wonderful chemical area of Niagara Falls, and a former steel plant in Lackawanna.....although I'm not down river....there's still enough floating around in our water...don't need any more in my food.
mepolo at 4:37PM on 06/13/07