How much would you spend for direct from the farm, organic meat?
I recently joined up with a local CSA and have the opportunity to buy my meat direct from the farm, all organic raised, the only problem is that it's 2-3 times more than I would spend at a local butcher. Is the high cost really worth it?
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11 Comments:
I occasionally buy meat direct from our local organic farmer. It is pricey. The breakfast sausage and bacon are definitely worth the price. The chicken is not - too tough even after brining. The turkeys are very good after brining, but they are often too small for a big Thanksgiving feast. The chuck roast makes the best pot roast I've ever had! I don't bother with the more expensive cuts like steaks and chops.
Library Lady at 9:25AM on 06/08/07
I have trouble spending 3x for the organic chickens at the grocery store, since I haven't ever really been able to detect any appreciable difference in the end product. If the organic chicken tasted much more chickeny, I might be better able to do it, but it doesn't.
I suggest if your CSA will let you buy it once or twice, without requiring you to make any future purchasing commitment, then try it. If you notice that the meat is worth the extra cost, then you might be able to cut back on the amount you'd normally buy to make up for the extra cost. Otherwise, I wouldn't do it.
DaveFaris at 11:22AM on 06/08/07
WOW! Both "Global Warming" and "organic food" are VERY touchy subjects, capable of igniting a lot of very HEATED conversation (kinda like politics, religion, and NYC's DOH).
Personally, I think that "organic" food is pure hype and marketing. A lot of people have reportedly gotten very wealthy hawking "organic" food. Case in point, is the grocery chain Whole Foods (whose stock dropped nearly 40 percent last year when their customers deserted them in droves).
Where I live, many of the supermarkets sport an "organic" produce section where the produce is priced two to three times the normal price. When I read the labels on some of these expensive produce items, they indicated that the country of origin was Mexico, Honduras, Ecuador, etc.
Now I love my neighbors in Latin America, but I REALLY question the "controls" and "inspections" that the Latin American governments exert over their "organic" producers (farmers, etc.).
I suppose if spending more money, often a LOT MORE money, on something labeled "organic" makes you feel better . . . then go for it. But for me, I just do not buy into the hype.
As far as meat goes, I consider myself a bit of an expert on beef, steaks in particular. I have eaten a few of the "organic raised" beef cuts, and I simply cannot tell any difference between them and regular USDA "Choice" cuts from the butcher shop.
Also, I have relatives in Brenham, Texas, who are in the beef producing business (they prefer to be called ranchers). They laugh about what they call the "yuppie" generation and the "chic" associated with purchasing organic beef vs. traditional "butcher shop" beef.
They also find the hype concerning "Angus" beef to be very humorous (although they keep their humor under wraps since they raise Angus, among other breeds).
Now, if you talk grass-fed beef versus grain-fed beef, I will be the first to admit that there is a difference. Personally, I have tried and have rejected "grass fed" beef. Indeed, I cannot foresee ever purchasing it again.
Probably a lot of talk here that is not at helpful to your query, but for me, "farm-direct-organic-raised" meat only helps the bottom line of the producer at the expense of the consumer who has good intentions.
DocChuck at 12:52PM on 06/08/07
If the beef is good quality and buying local, organic food is important to you then I'd say the cost is worth it. If you're not militant about where your food comes from or how it is produced then perhaps you should reconsider. I'd say it is worth a try as long as you're not committed to buying it long term, just in case you don't like it.
AuntJone at 1:18PM on 06/08/07
Josh, you might want to talk to the farmers and get more information about the meat to understand why it's more expensive. You say it's organic. Are the animals grass-fed or corn-fed? Are they fairly free range or confined to feed lots? Are the ranchers part of the Certified Humane Raised & Handled movement? And what kind of cattle are being used? Is it some kind of heritage breed or a common breed? 60 percent of beef cattle are of the Angus, Hereford or Simmental breeds. Any/all of these factors contribute to the price of your meat.
Of course, it boils down to your values and the taste. If you're concerned about eating local and supporting local farmers (which presumably you are as you joined a CSA), it might be worth paying the extra money, knowing it's supporting the farmer directly. But if it doesn't taste great, even an interest in saving small farms might not be enough to justify doing it.
In answer to your question, I buy almost all my meat direct from the farmer at my local greenmarket here in NYC. It is more expensive, and as such, I don't eat a whole lot of meat. But when I do, I want to know where it came from and what kind of life it had.
megnut at 1:41PM on 06/08/07
Thanks for all the feedback. It's a lot to think about, because I was very excited to support local farms, but I had a bit of sticker shock. I make a lot of BBQ, so paying $35 for a pork butt that I can get at the butcher for $15, might not be worth it, while smaller things, like bacon or steak, is probably worth a try. I'm more likely to taste the difference in those anyway.
josh! at 2:26PM on 06/08/07
Funny, for some reason I totally wasn't thinking about pork, but beef. I find pork is the one I most notice the difference with, because commercial pork is just awful and dry and has no flavor or yummy fat.
megnut at 2:47PM on 06/08/07
Thinking about pork . . . I don't want to ruin your dinner, but Smithfield is the largest producer of pork products on the planet.
If you have not already viewed this commentary, PLEASE do it before purchasing any more "commercially-prepared" pork:
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/12840743/porks_dirty_secret_the_nations_top_hog_producer_is_also_one_of_americas_worst_polluters
After reading the report, and doing a bit of additional research into "Smithfield", my wife (an M.D.) and I decided to "boycott" their products.
Yeah, RIGHT!
Try to purchase a pork product at your local "grocery store" without purchasing a "Smithfield-processed" product.
Alright, I know that I will be criticized for my heavy-handed politics.
But, folks, we really need to confront the issues.
I'm signing off for the day . . . . DocChuck
DocChuck at 3:21PM on 06/08/07
Well, before signing off, I have to ask Adam:
Is it just me, or is it someone else?
What is the problem with posting comments on the site?
Can you "fix" my latest post . . . format-wise?
DocChuck at 3:27PM on 06/08/07
You make a good argument for pork. I've read Pig Perfect, so I know about the pig processing horrors and the difference organic fed pork can taste. In an ideal world I would buy all my meat and veggies straight from the farm, but financial realities stop me from that. I think you all have raised my interest enough to take the pork out on a test run though, get different a few different pieces from the butcher and CSA and taste the difference first hand and consider the actual end value. I'm most interested in the pork butts and how different an organic fed pig will taste against the one from local butcher when turned into pulled pork. I'll post back here with the results (probably will have to wait until next month though, first CSA meat distribution isn't until June 26).
josh! at 3:51PM on 06/08/07
Hmmm....I don't know what to think of all this. I buy meat from a local butcher who buys meat from some dude in Iowa. Butcher claims no hormones, no antibiotics, but its not labelled "organic" I take his word for it, but who knows. HIs prices are a little higher than supermarket prices, but I support him because I support small local business.
It seems that as I become more conscious about my food, I have even more complicated decisions to make - local or nonlocal? organic or non? support small business or lg supermarket chain?
Steamy Kitchen at 9:43AM on 06/09/07