A "great burger" that doesnt taste like dog food??
I get hungry for a good hamburger but can't seem to find a place that makes one that doesn't taste like dogfood--does anyone else have this problem? I have tried to make
them at home with all kinds of seasonings like garlic-onion soy sauce etc with no luck
Is it the meat that is different now? Help!
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Can you better describe the taste that you think of as "dog food"? Have you tried having different cuts of meat ground for you at the butcher's counter and using those?
thepictsie at 6:26AM on 06/18/07
Maybe you just don't like hamburgers. My wife doesn't, and while she hasn't used the words dog food to describe them, she seems to object to the texture as much as the taste. Seems like that texture may be what makes you think "dog food".
Sincerely, Dr. Freud (;^D)
Vitello Tonnato at 7:35AM on 06/18/07
Are you using lean ground beef? Disastrous.
Barbara Hanson at 9:20AM on 06/18/07
Maybe something else? Buffalo, perhaps? Trader Joe's sells GREAT buffalo burgers. They're frozen, four to a box ... give 'em a try. Then if you like them you could start using buffalo instead of cow when you make burgers at home.
Aside from that, and health concerns aside, try getting ground beef with a higher fat content. Sure, it's not all that good for you but I'll bet you the taste will improve!
rbryants at 10:14AM on 06/18/07
I grind my own and use a mix of 50 percent chuck, 25 percent sirloin, and 25 percent brisket, flank or skirt steak (depending on what the butcher has). The results are always good. I think I got the ratio from a post on here about Shake Shack in Manhattan.
EatWisconsin at 10:52AM on 06/18/07
I've never tasted dog food, so I won't be of much help... (sorry, I just couldn't resist!)
Lilartist at 11:28AM on 06/18/07
Never having tasted dog food, I haven't a clue as to how it tastes.
What I do know is the burgers I make at home are juicy and tasty. I get my chopped meat from a kosher butcher. Neck and tenderloin. I form the meat into fat 4-5 oz. burgers. No other ingredients added. When I put then on the barbecue, I sprinkle them with garlic powder and a little ground black pepper. No salt since, as part of the koshering process, the meat has already been salted. Cooked medium rare. Delicious!
RGR at 11:38AM on 06/18/07
When it comes to burgers -- and other meat matters -- it's all about the fat content. Frank Bruni had a great article in The NYTimes (http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/13/dining/13glut.html?_r=1&ref=dining&oref=slogin) paying homage to succulent pork shoulders and so giving new meaning go the term "pig out." What's true for pork is true for beef: you can't make a good burger without breaking a few (halth) rules. and as for embellishing the meat: leave the soy sauce to the pork. Simple is better, just S&P. The best burgers in New Mexico are topped with cheddar cheese and homegrown green chile, the likes of which NYC has never seen!
hatlady at 1:08PM on 06/18/07
I really wanted to join in this exchange about hamburgers, garbo, but you are talking about one of my favorite foods of all time!
To equate "hamburgers" with "dog-food", the eating of which I fortunately have not had to resort . . . despite the stories in the media about "seniors" and their eating habits (i.e., eating dog food in order to pay the bills, blah, blah, blah).
So, I will stay out of the discusssion, other than to say, "NO, fortunately, I don't have "this problem."
And, I hope that you find find a cure for it (the problem, that is).
DocChuck at 1:33PM on 06/18/07
When I make burgers at home, I go a little above and beyond. I've even gone so far as to grind the meat myself using the grinding attachment on my stand mixer. (I'd heard that grinding beef brisket provides the juiciest and most flavorful burger, but after trying it a few times, I'm not convinced.) Now what I do is a chop up a shallot (or an onion) fine. I also add a couple ounces of left over pot roast (or, failing that, I use one of those prepared pot roasts in the meat case), and I chop that up fine, reserving some of the gravy to add to the meat mixture. Salt, pepper, and maybe worchestshire sauce. I usually pick an 80/20 ground chuck if I can. I mix all of these together and then form thin, thin, thin patties, as big as the palm of my hand. I toss them on a cast iron griddle pan and cook them 2 minutes a side, slipping on a slice of mozzarella or provolone after I flip them. I also let them sit for a few minutes to rest after I take them off the heat, like I'd do with any other piece of meat.
DaveFaris at 1:46PM on 06/18/07
could you please enlighten us with what dogfood does taste like?
Kbear919 at 1:55PM on 06/18/07
I would try any place that serves meat.
The Guilty Carnivore at 2:57PM on 06/18/07
@"The Guilty Carnivore":
I mean no disrespect to your feelings, so long as your feelings are genuine.
However, since I follow your comments, one of those comments, in particular, begs an explanation:
"I'm not exactly sure why, but responses to this thread run the gamut from cultural unsophisticatedness (sic) to near racism."
Just for my scientific curiosity, could you expand upon your definition(s) of "cultural unsophisticatedness" (sic) and of "racism."
I mean, some of us resent being accused of being branded "unsophisticated" or "racist" by someone who may have difficulty understanding what those inflammatory labels even mean.
I, for one, REALLY tire of being branded a RACIST by someone who substitutes what he or she perceives as "politically-correct damnation" as a substitute for rational discussion.
Therefore, if you are going to use these nomenclatures so loosely (in my opinion) perhaps you could explain the justification.
Otherwise, I would ask that you use your "labels" with judiciousness.
DocChuck at 3:46PM on 06/18/07
I would ask that we all stay on topic here.
And I, for one, am confused in that I see no mention of racism in this thread until the 3:46 p.m. comment by DocC. Guilty Carnivore may be guilty of eating meat, but he's not guilty of leveling accusations of racism here.
Adam Kuban at 5:08PM on 06/18/07
Sorry, you are correct.
I crossed up with another thread "Question of the Day: What cuisine can't you stand?"
The comments about racism was not used in this thread. My mistake.
DocChuck at 8:47AM on 06/19/07
For those who, like my self, have joined the fat phobic, for health or other reasons - I have a few suggestions that may not return us to yesteryear's nostalgic burger orgasm, but do result in a moist & tastey burger experience.
Using 4 oz. very lean ground beef, (95/5) - add one or all of the following:
1-2 Tablespoon minced onion, scallion, chives or shallots
1-3 microplaned garlic cloves
1-2 teaspoons red, green or yellow Thai curry paste
1/4 -1/2 cup finely chopped uncooked mushrooms
1/2 teaspoon low sodium soy sauce
dried red chili flakes &/or black or white pepper to taste
I cook my patty medium - the mushrooms release thier liquid into the burger resulting in a moist and flavorful nicely textured burger.
I use reduced fat cheese and occaisionally a soy cheese blend that melts well and tastes good.
My efforts to combat systemic inflammation led me to adding the onion, garlic and curry paste.
I no longer expect things to be "the way they were" - my current goal is to produce new delicious food experiences.
rampantfalcon at 9:59AM on 06/19/07
Thanks, rampantfalcon. I'm going to try your recipe next time.
DaveFaris at 10:28AM on 06/19/07
usually i throw half an onion in the food processor and blitz it to smithereens. then add that to a pound of ground beef, a couple dashes of worcestershire, a couple of teaspoons of barbecue sauce, salt and pepper, mix it all up. these come out pretty moist and i havent had any one turn one down. it's true that the higher the fat content, the better the burger. and dont, absolutely DO NOT press down with your spatula on the burger while it's cooking. resist the urge! just let it do its thing all by its lonesome.
lately i've been shoving cubes of cheese into the middle of the patties before cooking them up. cheddar, swiss, even bleu.
toasting the bun is also good.
rampantfalcon, i'm definitely going to try your recipe! i just so happen to have tubs of different curry pastes in my pantry.
french tart at 12:08PM on 06/19/07