Video: Eric Ripert Visits Costco on 'Avec Alan'
In the first installment of Avec Alan, GQ's food critic Alan Richman introduces French chef Eric Ripert to the wonders and horrors of Costco. How does the fluorescent light-filled warehouse club make make Ripert feel? Not so good:
I am freaked out. Costco depresses me. I know everybody doesn't have the same opportunities I do to visit farm stands and little markets, but I will fight to the end for inspirational shopping. Costco doesn't even look like it belongs on our planet. It could be on the moon. It has no relationship to the outside world as I know it. The lighting, the temperature, the outrageous abundance. The store has no life and no contact with anything that comes from the earth. Everything is packaged, sterile, clinical. Nothing about the food is emotional. And there is a wicked genius at work, mixing the organic with the terribly processed.
On the upside, the meal Richman prepares with the ingredients they bought from Costco is excellent. Ripert praises the ingredients, and even approves of the triple-crème cheese, although he says, "It makes me sad it is from a store that terrifies me." Costco: it's both terrifying and impressive. Watch the video after the jump.
Eric Ripert and Alan Richman Visit Costco on 'Avec Alan'
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35 Comments:
Whatever, dude.
arjava at 6:48PM on 11/24/09
"Costco: it's both terrifying and impressive. "
"And there is a wicked genius at work, mixing the organic with the terribly processed."
So true. Costco freaks me out too, but for certain items it's hard to beat.
Burger365 at 6:49PM on 11/24/09
He's just a goddam food snob. I'm sorry all us peasants shop at Costco.
yamatosoul at 6:52PM on 11/24/09
I don't think this makes Ripert a food snob. There may be some deals but most of it is processed, frozen stuff and really who the hell needs that much mayonnaise, Wheat Thins or beef jerky?
I cook for a family of 2 and Costco doesn't make sense for us and people are often shocked that I don't have a membership. A few times a year I'll tag along with someone with a membership thinking that I'm missing out and when I get there it's always such an unpleasant experience and never worth it.
justaneater at 7:18PM on 11/24/09
I think Ripert's feelings are pretty close to what most people feel for Costco - a horrified fascination mixed with a bit of awe. Almost like a train wreck. And I'm a card-carrying member of Costco.
AnnieNT at 7:25PM on 11/24/09
I don't know that I'd say food snob per se, but it's very, very unrealistic to lament that people don't have access to fresh awesome food. Costco is way above what he'd be looking at if he went to Safeway or Wal Mart. Good ingredients are expensive and scarce. That's reality. I wish we could all afford to go to the best farmers markets and that great produce was available to us without having to go out of the way. If he thinks Costco is soulless he is pretty detached from the reality of most people. Still an absolutely amazing chef though.
perrinbar at 7:42PM on 11/24/09
Thank you for this bit of informative and yet whymiscal piece. It made me smile on a day when I so need that.
dhorst at 7:43PM on 11/24/09
This is just silly.
Compare CostCo to 99% of supermarkets, CostCo has higher quality meat, fresher produce, sometimes better selection. For instance the cheese section at CostCo is incredible.
Where does he think food at markets comes from? Farmers making deliveries to Vons? No, it all comes from giant distribution centers that stock the same onions, apples, and so on as CostCo carries.
peekpoke at 8:09PM on 11/24/09
I didn't see Eric's point of view as food snobbish; I thought it was rather funny. As long as Eric wasn't...traumatized. God knows the first time I went to Costco when I was a kid, my mind was blown—perhaps not in the same way as Eric's (less horror), but on a consumer level I'm not used to seeing so much stuff in one place. Also, I couldn't believe I could buy candy in bulk (which is sort of a surefire way to get sick of one type of candy; ah well).
Robyn Lee at 9:02PM on 11/24/09
I like Costco. I have a two-person household and we don't really eat that much, but I still enjoy shopping there, maybe because I like window-shopping even for food. There are some things (like dryer sheets and paper towels) that we will only buy there because the quality is so high. I wish I could buy more of the produce, but we would never use it up in time.
gwenkern at 9:02PM on 11/24/09
If you compare Costco to all the other big box stores like Sam's Club, etc., Costo is way out of their league. Costco pays their employess well, and as a result, has a wonderful team of knowledgeable employees. Their food, along with other items, reflect the local likes and dislikes. If you go into a Costco in Florida, and one in Oregon, you'll find many different regional products, very different, in each. Go Costco!
1stmakearoux at 9:24PM on 11/24/09
high quality dryer sheets, paper towels and produce? are you freakin' kidding me???? you'd think you were talking about saks fifth avenue. it's the same crap that's at walmart, just in disgustingly large, shrink wrapped quantities.
dmarina at 9:26PM on 11/24/09
I totally agree with everything that Ripert says about Costco. Nothing is alive, it is all sterile.
However, it is the age old issue, some of my friends are so happy with all the money they are saving by shopping at Costco. They feel proud of themselves that they are being so cost conscious and they don't get it about the food.
It is very frustrating for me, because friends throw out the spending too much money shame card and they think they are so good by all the money they are saving shopping at Costco. They just don't get it and never will. So much of the population thinks the same way, they take saving money over really fresh, healthy ingredients.
The thought of Costco gives me nightmares, it is everything that is wrong with the American food system!!!!!!!!!!!
Jbout at 9:27PM on 11/24/09
Hah, I love that crazy silver fox!
At least he didn't go to Sam's Club! I always thought of Costco as being sort of the classier of the two.
cdp1223 at 10:07PM on 11/24/09
Get over yourself, Eric. Yeah, it's gross to see minivans loading pallets of toilet paper in the parking lot, but they have great meat, if you need a sheet cake for a party, they do it and don't give you any crap about it, and the ones around here have boxes of chanterelles.
chanterelle at 10:08PM on 11/24/09
I agree with his opinion (although it got a little annoying after the 10th time he called it the "evil empire" while praising the quality) but I'm still a member for the cheap paper towels, tp, oatmeal, etc and some products are not terrible. I try to buy local, unprocessed, organic, chemical/preservative/dye-free food as much as possible, and if you read the labels you can find some things that are pretty good. I live in New England and some commodities - like oats for oatmeal - are just not grown here. Might as well get the best price and Costco has it.
In the warmer months I shop almost exclusively at farmers markets for fresh, local produce. But in the winter, no matter where I shop, it's not coming from the farm down the street, so I may as well go for the cheap stuff at Costco. You couldn't pay me to eat their meats though.
yayfood at 10:15PM on 11/24/09
I like to buy my tires and booze there but everything else is too big for one person.
redfish at 5:27AM on 11/25/09
I was a big Costco shopper when I lived in New England...I stayed away from the processed and pre-made stuff and stuck to raw ingredients and I always thought the quality of the meat, seafood, and produce were top notch. However, there is a huge difference when you compare the Costco experience to a French produce market--if you ever have the opportunity to visit France you will be amazed at how different the produce are. Imagine fruit that smell like fruit (before you even cut into them), and brilliant unwaxed peppers, velvety figs, and earthy mushrooms. That's what the guy is talking about...you don't quite get that experience at Costco. The closest thing to this experience that I've seen in the US is Whole Foods.
udon918 at 8:02AM on 11/25/09
That's an arrogant, out-of-touch, and knee jerk reaction of a snob. It's funny how a Whole Foods opened less than a half mile from my local Costco and how I was put off by the "parking for fuel-efficient vehicles only" adjacent to the entrance, and I had to wade through throngs of customers in an attempt to buy regular half and half (which was overpriced and needed to be fetched from the back as it was gone from the shelves).
I wonder, why cultivate this particular brand of hatred? Why not focus on the good things about Costco? Yes, the largesse is off-putting the first time you visit, and there's a comical aspect to buying fresh salmon while your tires are being replaced, but evil? Nope.
hmcnally at 10:01AM on 11/25/09
I love costco.
I think Ripert, now having had a costco meal, can understand why people would go to costco, but still be repulsed by the atmosphere.
I think I understand why Ripert would still never want to go back to a costco, but stick to his farmers market type shopping and procuring foods.
no need for name calling and judging... my $.02
I still love costco. the atmosphere is no different than any other, and I can still find inspiration from their ingredients, because even though they may not be from the in-state farm, is still fresh and quality.
oh, and their meats are far better than any of the other meats I can find in any other market around my house unless I want to pay double at wholefoods for their prime cut meats.
attgig at 11:28AM on 11/25/09
Firstly, this was clearly meant tongue-in-cheek. Secondly, Eric Ripert says throughout the video that he really likes everything they bought and ate from Costco. It's hard to disagree that Costco's atmosphere and packaging is sterile and weird, but like Ripert says, they have some good things. It's hard to imagine that any person, with unlimited resources and budget, would choose Costco over any other food shopping experience.
mare09 at 11:37AM on 11/25/09
Perhaps M. Ripert needs to go to a giant Carrefour the next time he is back in France. Jammed with all those people who we are led to believe are shopping in 6 separate shops for tonight's dinner. I believe that the French invented big box stores (Les Grandes Surfaces), the big difference is the quality and variety of the food available. It is also important to remember that anything grown in France never needs to be shipped more than about 400 miles - fruits and vegetables can be harvested later and arrive in markets fresher than they can here.
Punch at 12:52PM on 11/25/09
We'll probably find Eric Ripert sneaking back into Costco someday because that place can be addictive. I'll admit that sometimes I am aghast at the sheer volume of consumption that supports these behemoths.
@1stmakearoux: Agreed, Costco does rank higher than the likes of Walmart/Sams Club in terms of being a good employer. Their employee turnover rate has always much lower than average compared to other retailers.
whimsygirl at 3:22PM on 11/25/09
Does any one else think that we are all a bunch of hypocrites. I have talked to people at my office and some of my friends about similar issues. One of my freinds stated that she likes her meat wrapped in plastic nestled in styro foam trays, she doesn't want to know where her meat comes from. So do we want nice clean, sterile, "safe" food OR do we want fresh from the slaughter house meat, veggies with dirt on them. I know I am over simplifiying, but I would be happy with a mid way point. I shop at Costco because the price is reasonable and for the most part I trust the quality of the items on offer.
Sweetie at 4:36PM on 11/25/09
Thankfully I don't shop at Costco. You have to PAY a membership fee to shop there?? No thanks.
Not my cup of tea.
paris221966 at 6:42PM on 11/25/09
I will vouch for the amazing Delice De Bourgogne triple cream brie they sell at Costco...and it's cheap, to boot.
oh_no_eric at 7:48PM on 11/25/09
What a French f_ _ k. Seriously.
lilly wong at 12:17PM on 11/27/09
Costco is worth it for the toilet paper, nuts, and surprisingly, the Korean pears. The pears are always super sweet. I only wish my apartment was bigger so I could shop at Costco.
Tia Kim at 12:31AM on 11/30/09
You all seem to have forgotten that Costco and the big warehouse stores were designed for small business owners -- while individuals are welcome to shop for personal supplies, it is absurd to imply that an individual "loading a mini-van with toilet paper" is making personal purchases.
Who cares where anyone chooses to shop?
AbuelaLinda at 10:25AM on 11/30/09
I once bought, at the San Francisco Costco, fresh, whole chanterelle mushrooms for $9/lb. I don't recall ever having seen that price at any of the Paris markets I've shopped.
vonelle at 10:36AM on 11/30/09
Eric Ripert needs to start living in the real world. Even in France today most groceries (and everything else) are bought in hypermarches. And how does he account for the large chain selling only surgeles ( frozen foods)? He's been away too long and is living in the past ( a common French failing, and yes I do love France and the French)
speciality shops and farmers' markets are outside most budgets, and consumers don't have access to many wholesalers who Eric must use.
I will admit that the first time I went to Costco I too fled in horror but then I discovered some (rich) foodie friends shopped there so I gave it another look for items other than cat litter etc. Now, despite the fact that there are only two of us, seniors both, I spend at least 75% of my food dollars there.
The quality of the fruit and vegetables can't be beaten and the large quantities encourage us to eat more, which is no bad thing. Meat can be frozen and is still a better quality for the price that anything I can find.
Costco stocks according to location, the new East Harlem store has a better choice than the Queens store. Friends living in wealthy suburbs inform me that their options are even better. If they stock processed food it is because it sells, blame the customers not Costco. And never forget that they are a very good employer- unlike most of their competitors.
judithuk at 10:45AM on 11/30/09
@judithuk - So true! The last time I went to France (in 2008) every medium to large town had a Hyper U or Casino market. Hyper U carried everything from produce to cheap furniture and clothing. Casino markets were smaller and poorer quality (DH and I came up with the slogan, "Casino. It's a gamble.")
I didn't see a lot of the specialty stores like butchers, etc. as Ripert describes. Some, but not in every village. What I enjoyed most about the French supermarkets was that all of the produce was labeled with the location of origin, which is not the case in most markets in the US.
yayfood at 11:22AM on 11/30/09
Let's not get hysterical -- nobody goes to Costco for the ambiance. But there are some quality ingredients to be found there, as he points out. There are supermarkets in France, too, and they aren't much different than supermarkets anywhere. Lots of us go to Costco for their wonderful avocados, affordable red and yellow peppers, beautiful little green beans, nice cheese selection, excellent meat department, etc. and also support our local farmers' markets.
homerun2 at 11:33AM on 11/30/09
homerun2 - AMEN! there is room in a household for both Costco and supporting local sustainable farms through farmers markets and CSA's. The truly savvy shopper will be able to discern which of the above fills each individual need on his/her shopping list. And then they can get the freshest foods, best quality and best price by choosing wisely between the two. It's not rocket science, just smart shopping.
Costco is great for many things but you can't expect an elegant experience when you go there; have realistic expectations. And then when you finish at Costco go have some fun at the farmer's market as a reward for having the patience and smarts to make the most of your dollar.
cemommy at 5:02PM on 11/30/09
Ordinarily I do not comment, however, if you lived in KY where I do and could only shop at Kroger or Walmart you would be thrilled to shop for fresh fruits and veggies and also organic items at Costco. I visit at least twice a month in either Nashville or Louisville and am thrilled to get produce, cheeses, and great meats that I otherwise would not have available did I not have this membership. I am in a gourmet club and use a lot of baking items from Costco also.
Rita62 at 7:02PM on 11/30/09