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Who Should Be on Reality TV: White, Steingarten, or Ramsay?

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Marco Pierre White, Jeffrey Steingarten, and Gordon Ramsay.

All right, I admit it. I watched The Chopping Block last night (actually I went back and forth between it and the Knicks game—a pathetic sight). While I still dislike the show, I was thrilled to see my friend Jeffrey Steingarten playing the role he loves: the acid-tongued food critic.

In real life there's a sweet, sentimental side to Jeffrey that's he's rarely, if ever, called upon to show on television. But even when Jeffrey's filling the hard-ass critic role on food competition reality shows, he also manages to be funny, though the joke is often lost on the poor contestants he's addressing. Last night, for example, he commented on one team's Caprese salad by saying, "This is the worst thing I've tasted in two or three years." Ouch. (It should be noted that he then excessively praised the same team's crab cakes). But maybe I can find the humor in such pronouncements because I've known Jeffrey for so long and I know he was just saying it for effect.

I've always wanted to give Jeffrey his own reality show, and after watching The Chopping Block I'm convinced more than ever that it would be a huge hit. I think Jeffrey has the potential to be a bigger reality show television star than, say, Marco Pierre White or Gordon Ramsay.

What do you think: Marco Pierre White, Gordon Ramsay, or Jeffrey Steingarten? Cast your vote right here. Maybe the losers have to go on the cooking reality show chopping block.

53 Comments:

i love anything that jeffrey steingarten writes, so i'm with you.

I agree about Jeffrey Steingarten, I love seeing him on Iron Chef America, and if I'd known he was going to be on the Chopping Block show I would have recorded it.

My vote for chopping is Gordon Ramsay; the man is just plain MEAN. Yes, I understand that he has a wonderful palate and high standards, but there's no need to humiliate people, which he does routinely on all his shows.

Agreed - Jeffrey Steingarten is great.

My vote goes to Jeffrey! He's the awesomest of the group by far.

all steingarten all the time, yes please.

I love Jeffrey on Iron Chef too -- he is usually the only critic with half a brain (like the asian woman who thinks everything is greasy -- ugh someone slap her), and I definitely appreciate his love of food. I would LOVE to have an all-Jeffrey show. Yay!

Plus, unlike the other two meanies, he's not just mean for mean's sake. He usually does have constructive criticism and knows how to call a spade a spade -- without resorting to foul language or violence.

Jeffrey should be taken out back. He even spells his name wrong, how should we be able to trust him on food.

Ramsay is a total hack. I've worked in his kitchens and seen the type of sh*t that goes on. He certainly does not practice what he preaches.

Get him out!

Ever since reading "The Man Who Ate Everything" i've revered this fellow.

Is this about Chefs or Critics....If about chefs I vote for Ramsey and White if about critics then Jeffrey

Anyone except Steingarten. While I do love an "acid-tongued critic" in any field, Steingarten is pompous, tedious, and often a jerk. There is a difference between being a critic and being and ass; Jeffrey hasn't figured out where the line is.

My vote is for Steingarten.

However, in defense of Gordon, I think his TV persona differs greatly between the British and American versions of his shows. On the Brit versions, he gives solid, thoughtful advice and is jocular and likable. I believe the producers of his U.S. shows tell him to turn on the anger and edit for high drama and confrontation. That makes them virtually unwatchable.

Marco Pierre White! I am blown away by his depth of insight and sagacity. This man has depths I haven't seen on ANY tv chef/host to date. I find him fascinating, so wise, so perceptive.

Think about it, MPW was the first UK chef awarded a Michelin star. Imagine the odds he overcame to get that honor!

He's got me hypnotized!

ramsey is no hack. being a chef & a business man he is on par with madonna in the 90's for success. everyone kind of likes jeffrey because he's a bitchy new york food critic whose funny & a little gay. as for marco, he changed the world in a good way & he's still amazing. he just sucks on tv!

Ramsey then White. Period. Steingarten is about as annoying as Alice Waters.

Put Steingarten and Bonecrusher in a show together (they were a riot together on Iron Chef America)!

Steingarten for sure. Let Marco Pierre White stay on TV, ban Ramsay from appearing in front of television cameras. I must admit that I love cooking reality TV. But, Hell's kitchen is simply unwatchable and completely tasteless.

I certainly prefer White to Ramsey but Steingarten trumps them both because he's REAL. He's not a caricature even when he's exaggerating about something, etc. I don't know exactly what kind of show would work for him or even whether he would do it or not but I would definitely watch it!

White COULD be someone I like but why can't he say anything without putting his finger up? Steingarten is a pig. I may try reading one of this books but the dude rubs me the wrong way.

My vote? Ramsay all the way. If you watch anything he's done on BBC, you'll see that he's personable but exacting in his kitchen. I love the guy.

I wish someone would present the joy to be found from Steingarten instead of simply using him to flog contestants.

I would love a simple show about him visiting his favorite places to eat and to talk about them the way he writes about them.

Gordon Ramsey. I LOVE him. I put no chef (or critic) before him. White is a trainwreck. I can take or leave Steingarten.

Gordon Ramsy - the UK version. I can't stand to see Steingarten on TV - love his writing however. The man who ate everything is one of my favorite books.

I love men who cook and curse. Jeffrey is creepy to me. I also like to read him as long as I don't have to see him drooling and ooohing. It is just gross. He just gives me the creeps period. As for Marco I am not very into him at all. So bring me the cursing chef.

Steingarten...but as a few people have already mentioned, the Steingarten from his books.

I don't have a strong opinion on the other two, but I think that Steingarten has such a humorless, unappealing quality to his television persona that I would like it a lot never to see him again on that medium. His writing may be awesome, but on TV - no redeeming qualities.

@GoodEaterKenji - What? You washed dishes or some such thing in one of his restaurants and you've decided he's a "hack"? What the hell does that mean anyway? You should be such a hack. He's got more Michelin stars than you do IQ points.

Sorry Ed, I have to disagree with you about Steingarten; I hate knocking someone who is obviously a personal friend of yours, but I find him to be a pompous, arrogant, unlikeable fellow and frankly, whenever he's a judge on Iron Chef, I turn it off. He's just obnoxious and his opinion of his own opinions are over-inflated. I really cannot stand him.

I'd love to see a show with MPW and GR in a cookoff! I love both of them and find them each fascinating in their own way. They both have such an intensity and passion for their craft.

Ramsey is NOT "mean"--though our American producers apparently believe that we American viewers would not be interested in anything but a brooding, misanthropic chef...For a clearer view of his personality, try to catch him in THE 'F' WORD on BBC America; yes, if he is surrounded by idits, his temper flares, but he is most often intelligent, warm and real.

I meant "idiOts;" my bad...

While I adore Steingarten's writing, I'm not a huge fan of him face to face. Fox Ramsey is dreadful, but BBC Ramsey totally rocks and I would watch him in anything he does at anytime ever. MPW is kind of weirdly interesting to watch. He's at once dull and creepy, this weird sort of food goth Frankenstein. Considering who he actually is and what he's accomlished, you'd think he'd have a little more charisma, but not so much.

In order:

Ramsey
Stgeingarten
MPW

We want Jeffrey

JEFFERY RULES;
If he were on T.V. I guarantee you I'd schedule my day around it because I know I would learn a lot.

But my heart goes out to Ramsay
Sigh I could watch him alllll dayyy

It's very clear that Fox has instructed Ramsay to go totally over the top angry on Hell's Kitchen. He's nowhere near as extreme on any other show I've seen him on, especially the British ones. When he loses his temper on the British version of Kitchen Nightmares it's almost always with someone who is really asking for it. And even then, he does come across as someone who genuinely cares about getting the restaurant running right.

I can't form an opinion (much) about White yet because I've only seen one episode of his show. Steingarten is someone I can take or leave.

I watched it also :). I have to admit I enjoyed Marco on this show and do think Jeffrey makes a great guest role. Even though it's very much a Top Chef spinoff, Marco gives the show a different style and expertise. I think I may watch again.

Hillary
Chew on That

I don't mind Steingarten's TV commentary or the things he's written, but I get a little creeped out watching the way he eats. He holds his fork like he's shoveling the food into his mouth. I'm getting a little bored with the all the reality shows in general but watch them when nothing better is on....ah the good old days when cooking shows really involved cooking.

I have a lot of respect for Steingarten, but I don't think his quieter dignity would transfer to what the network types who create these reality shows are looking for. I really don't want more pointless yelling, and I think that's why I'm enjoying The Chopping Block.

Hells Kitchen will be on in a few minutes, but I just haven't been able to watch it the last two weeks all the way through, because it may as well be the same show every week: "You pig!(or cow, or whatever)"; "This is cold!" : "Shut it down!" . Yawn.

love steingarten. i miss the show the two of you had Ed!

Thanks, mycherrypie. That show was fun. I think that Jeffrey's show would have a different format than any food show I've seen on tv yet. I also think Marco Pierre White would be better suited to a different format.

Jeffrey Steingarten is a very intellectually focused food critic...and I don't know that he would translate all that well for the masses in a reality show. He's too understated and has very little "drama" in the way he presents himself. I enjoy reading him, and as long as I don't have to watch him eat I enjoy his commentary on cooking competition shows.

As for Gordon and Marco, let's see them go head to head. :) That would be some serious reality show drama. Marco claims to have made Gordon cry...so let's see it.

Love Gordon, find MPW's new show a complete waste of time and Steingarten ... eh.

Actually, Marco doesn't claim to have made Gordon cry. Marco says Gordon made himself cry. And Marco also had Batali in such a tizzy that Batali stormed out of his kitchen, dropping handfuls of salt into several sauces on his way out.

Jeffrey mumbled too much. He's fine on Iron Chef, always entertaining, but we had to dig out the closed captions option to figure out his Herpes remark.

At this point it's pretty easy to see through Ramsay's shtick--I'm finding him entertaining again.
MPW's 'power' finger approach is the new joke around the house.
As much as I like Steigarden as a critic I worry about him being wasted as a host--this happened to Ted Allen; having to carry the ball still haunts Emilio at times.

An aside: Chilean Sea Bass is no longer considered endangered; there are other reasons activists recommend that you avoid it.

Serious Eats needs to do a better job of editing its articles. I love the content on this site, but the blatant and consistent grammatical errors detracts from the overall quality of the site and tars the reputation of its writers. There is simply no excuse.

Ramsay - He's pretty rough on Hell's Kitchen, but if you ever see Kitchen Nightmares, you get to see a different side of him. I find him honest and while pretty raw sometimes, and I watching him.

Steingarten should be read and not seen/heard.

MPW is beautiful and terrible like an army arrayed for battle. He takes my breath away... I would have loved to see Batali and Ramsay put into tizzies!

Also, anyone into heavy pointing is fine with me!

Love him or hate him, Steingarten is the only one of the three who could move the ball forward in the world of food shows. Can you imagine him putting on a fake persona or doing something unoriginal? Not me. He's believably and genuinely crabby -- unlike Ramsay -- but he's also humorous and an astute professional eater from whom we could learn valuable lessons. His books certainly suggest this. And you know he'd rather eat a preservative-laden salad before appearing on a reality show with a unoriginal format. White did just that by appearing on another show with the GD kitchen competitions. If the viewing public is feeling anything like me, they're tired of celebrity chefs involved in competitive cooking events. Something new would be nice!

Steingarten would be the ultimate surly moderator for a weekly roundtable series, a la The McLaughlin Group, where guests with different culinary viewpoints hash out food issues in an intelligent yet often comical manner. Could also see him hosting a culinary Jeopardy-type show, where he'd get to make hilariously bitchy quips in response to people's answers.

So, I'm all in for Steingarten. He's one-of-a-kind and real. Real smart, real funny and could be truly great on his own show . . . maybe a reality show. Or not.

Well, shucks. I should have wrote "...he'd rather eat a preservative-laden salad before appearing on ANOTHER reality show with an unoriginal format."

Iron Chef America was certainly modeled after the original. Anyway, Steingarten gets a pass for that. No right thinking person would pass up an opportunity to be on the judge's panel for that show (one of the very few TVFN shows worth watching these days).

Steingarten was on White's show? Eff. So, original programming isn't such a big deal to Steingarten. Still think he'd balk at hosting a show that has a tired, cooking competition format.

I find Steingarten pompous and gave up on "Chopping Block" after ten minutes. I am definitely a GR fangirl, but Fox's meddling - with most of their shows not just KN - has left a bad taste in my mouth. I'll stick with The F Word and KN BBC. There's so much less DRAMA!!! and more actual food.

How about none of them? Here's an idea.....what if the TV powers to be (PBS , Food Network, Travel Channel, Fine Living Network-I don't really care) re-ran the old shows from Julia Child, Jeff Smith, Justin Wilson, Marcia Adams, Graham Kerr, Earl Peyroux, Joyce Chen, Madeleine Kamman, Natalie Dupree, the Romagnoli's, Marcel Desaulnieres, Biba Caggiano, Nick Stellino, Mollie Katzen, the 'Great Chef's series', Anne Willan (cooking from LaVarenne) et al.......if for no other reason other than the newbie generation of foodies can experience the kind of cooking shows that paved the way for this current wave of cooking shows? My daughter (in her 30's) has no idea of what a cooking show on TV is other than the crap we see on these reality shows and 'most' Food Network shows.....did I just have an epiphany or will be I be flamed?

You know what? I'm tired as hell as of the new "cooking shows" and I'm not going to take it anymore. I have a remote control. And I can read books.

All you Ramsay fans are crazy in the UK or the US he is a total wanker ...yes the man can cook ........because Marco taught him .......jeffrey is a good crittic honest and harsh when need be but his own show ...I just dont know. To me Ramsay has just become a media whore. And yes I must agree on one point its the producers that are unleashing the Ramsay we see on the US versions of his shows.

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