Interview with a Grocery Store Shoplifter
From Gothamist: "What's the biggest score you've made at Whole Foods? Over $50 in one day. I don't remember the exact dollar amount but it was three pounds of wild tuna, two pounds cod fish, one pound of walnuts, three pieces of brie cheese, four carry-on bags of pre-made sushi, one bottle of the best quality Italian olive oil."
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48 Comments:
Hope you get caught next time dirt bag, some of us have worked hard to pay for our stuff, and scum like you cost all of us more.
jword2001 at 10:30AM on 01/13/09
What the heck? Really? You're going to promote the bragging of those who steal? Uh...kinda makes me not care much for this blog.
Poor decision, guys. Really.
kimonkey7 at 10:40AM on 01/13/09
Wow, really disappointed with SE on this one. I wasn't aware breaking the law was something to brag about. And shame on you for giving this guy "screen time" thusly encouraging his avarice. Dreadfully disappointed by this.
Martini Me at 10:52AM on 01/13/09
Bad form, SE. Don't give these jerks their 15 seconds of fame. Especially when so many of us are hurting financially.
juliebugsmama at 10:53AM on 01/13/09
Ick!
Even if the original article had been presented as an Onion-style joke, I wouldn't have been amused.
aujahlisa at 11:05AM on 01/13/09
Stores have to increase their prices to make up for losses from shoplifters, so while this thief benefits, the rest of us suffer.
emgroff at 11:15AM on 01/13/09
I'm chiming in in agreement with the above posters. I want to believe that The Gothamist piece is a joke. But I'm not certain. And, really, I think it was serious.
It's pathetic of SE to post this.
ccbweb at 11:18AM on 01/13/09
I'm speechless! And that takes one hell of a lot!!
izatryt at 11:25AM on 01/13/09
In my opinion even if this is a "satirical" piece (which I doubt) it is still grossly irresponsible and not the least bit funny.
Martini Me at 11:25AM on 01/13/09
I stand by my decision to post this. It's an interesting look into the psychology of someone who shoplifts. I'm happy the Serious Eats community is law-abiding and outraged by this person's actions, but I personally found it fascinating and thought that some readers here would, too. And it did not make me want to go out and shoplift.
Adam Kuban at 11:31AM on 01/13/09
Gee, Adam, glad you have the courage of your own appetites and all, but I agree with the other commenters: This was totally gratuitous.
anitaepler at 11:40AM on 01/13/09
Was going to comment on this earlier, but decided to go out and shoplift instead. I wore my overalls and trench coat and was able to score a whole side of beef and 50 pounds of sunchokes. Wh00t!!!
CarlaBowers at 11:42AM on 01/13/09
"...It’s a job like any other job; it requires professionalism, requires effort, requires time. It’s not an easy thing. And there's a certain amount of risk, like any venture that you get into, any business you get into."
The same could be said of committing any crime for which you do not want to be caught. It hardly amounts to moral justification, as this guy seems to think.
I didn't find it fascinating; I just found it appalling.
Max Fischer at 11:45AM on 01/13/09
@Adam - Now that you have shamed yourself, I'm going to have to recruit a new moral compass.
Michele Humes at 11:46AM on 01/13/09
This is a food-related story from the blog world. SE is a food website that covers food-related news. There is no editorializing that implies that SE is endorsing this person's actions.
Shoplifting is a huge consideration for all retailers, especially grocers, and given our currently worsening financial crisis, it will undoubtedly become more of a problem.
I think this piece is, as Adam says, an interesting look into the way a "professional" shoplifter views what he does and how he justifies his illegal activities to himself. The interviewer asks questions in such a way that are not condemnatory in order to gain the shoplifter's sympathy; the tone of the questions should not be interpreted as endorsement of shoplifting.
producestories at 11:47AM on 01/13/09
eh I agree with Adam. relax its probably not even true.
bobbob at 11:50AM on 01/13/09
You may stand by your decision to post but this guy also obviously stands by his decision to shoplift. Just because you are steadfast in your opinion does not make it any less reprehensible or irresponsible. The fact that you find this fascinating is a poor excuse to post. You can easily appease your fascination by reading this in the privacy of your own computer instead of posting it for all to see, thereby increasing this guys popularity and visibility online.
Martini Me at 11:54AM on 01/13/09
Adam I don't question your decision to post this.
Does everyone realize the site is a fake blog like The Onion?
ccooper at 11:56AM on 01/13/09
Is CNN.com endorsing the criminals about whose crimes they report? SE is a food site. This is a food story, and it is relevant. The shoplifter has no increased "popularity or visibility" because he is interviewed anonymously! The reactionary responses to this piece are freaking me out.
producestories at 11:56AM on 01/13/09
I work in Loss Prevention for a supermarket chain and shoplifting is a crime. I really think that posting this interview somehow makes it ok. Someone always pays the price for shoplifting, usually the innocent consumer. Also, if this person is a pro, they aren't very good at it. Fifty dollars in nothing for a grab.
Cassaba at 11:59AM on 01/13/09
geez, lighten up folks. also, i want to know what whole foods he is shopping in, because that seems like way more than $50 to me.
carriebwc at 12:00PM on 01/13/09
i'm with @producestories. i didn't really find the article that interesting -- mostly b/c the shoplifter came off as a predictable ass -- but i'm standing by adam's right to post it. it had relevance; and not every.single.thing. on SE is something that i a) agree with b) find wholly fascinating....
rawksavvy at 12:00PM on 01/13/09
Well, I'm not upset in the least that it was posted here. Sure, the guy is foul and disgusting, but it really is fascinating as a character piece. It's not like the linking/reposting here was a message to everyone to emulate this guy, or a celebration of his shoplifting. I found it interesting - and while we can find the person - or even Gothamist's way of framing the article - repulsive, I don't see why it reflects poorly on SE or Adam.
BangieB at 12:07PM on 01/13/09
Poor decision? Bad form? Relax people, geesh. Articles such as these--if there is any truth to this one, are actually extremely informative to those who run stores. Many criminals like to brag about their handiwork and that's what usually lands them in jail later on down the road. At the same time, such information helps to improve preventive measures.
Asado at 12:27PM on 01/13/09
while I find the interview pretty interesting (particularly the quoted section above) when Gothamist asks the guy for advice for aspiring shoplifters, it gets a little weird. thanks Adam for bringing it to my attention!
Allison Hemler at 1:20PM on 01/13/09
If you only read the blurb and not the full article, I can see how you might jump to the conclusion that this piece doesn't belong here. But, the article is interesting and I fully support it. After all, it's not like Adam put up a story about Jeffrey Dahmer. It's relevant to the SE community because we all pay for shoplifting, whether it's taking place at WF or Food 4 Less. If you are offended by it, use it for something educational. Then the next time you see someone lurking in the fish section at WF, you can rat them out to management and save us all some dollars.
runrgrrl at 1:22PM on 01/13/09
I admit I could have framed it better and given it some context; perhaps that would have helped.
Adam Kuban at 1:25PM on 01/13/09
@Adam Kuban:
Well, it's a two-way learning experience, isn't it? Now we know where you draw the lines, and you know where several of your readers do.
While I'd never begrudge you your right to post the piece here (or to find it entertaining/interesting/timely) it immediately struck me as 'off' compared to the other content I've seen in my relatively short relationship with Serious Eats, which I've come to enjoy on a daily basis.
I think what it comes down to is a question of personal taste, and we all know that's completely and utterly subjective, regardless.
kimonkey7 at 1:50PM on 01/13/09
In general I skip articles I'm not interested in or don't agree with. Its a useful skill to develop if you enjoy browsing the internet.
bobbob at 2:01PM on 01/13/09
DON'T DO THIS AGAIN. As if Wholefoods wasn't expensive enough. Bad idea Serious Eats. Shame on both of you.
andysophiemom at 2:32PM on 01/13/09
I thought it was kinda interesting. I wish they'd asked him why he shoplifts, though.
OneWallKitchen at 2:45PM on 01/13/09
If stores required people to shop naked, shoplifting would be the least of their worries.
DaveFaris at 3:04PM on 01/13/09
This is NOT a "food-related" story. It is a crime-related story and has no place on this blog.
Tazzo at 3:36PM on 01/13/09
as so many people on this blog are so fond of pointing out regularly, if you aren't interested, then don't click. You even had to click over to another site for this one and then click back to leave a comment.
Respect to Adam for responding to the complaints and thanks for posting it. I find it fascinating as well. It in no way glorifies shoplifting and really only makes the guy/girl look like what he/she is, a sociopath and, as the other commenter noted, "a predictable ass."
intheyearofthepig at 3:49PM on 01/13/09
I appreciate the fact that SE has posted this interview. It gives me more insight in the world of someone who shoplifts. It does not encourage me to go out and shoplift, however. Neither does playing a violent game make me want to go outside and start shooting people - far from it.
This interview is a source of information for shopkeepers who want to ensure the safety of their and other people's belongings and therefore I would like to thank SE for posting it.
jenneke at 3:59PM on 01/13/09
hahahaha, that is hilarious. y'all need to take some xanax.
foodinmouth at 4:08PM on 01/13/09
I don't think there's anything wrong with highlighting this story. I think people are overreacting. But, I second a few comments above and say that perhaps it would have been more of value to your readers if the SE editors had added some of their own commentary or tried to start a discussion regarding the article instead of just posting an excerpt and seeing what happens.
rosso99 at 4:09PM on 01/13/09
@foodinmouth - yup.
I thought this was interesting - not to acknowledge that people steal things in NYC is more than ignorant. While I don't know if I'd classify this guy as part of a "sub-culture", he certainly has a different take on things that I've never considered. It was also interesting to read his responses, which I found to be well thought-out and somewhat rational.
This whole to-do about SE posting this is nonsense.
Don't worry, Adam. I'm not overwhelmed by an urge to go steal something.
teenagefoodie at 6:27PM on 01/13/09
"Life is short, but it is wide".....a quote from one of my favorite authors. I take that to mean that there are lots of perspectives that I don't understand but that doesn't mean that they don't exist. I think this story is meant to be tongue in cheek but I also know that there are those who may really feel that they have to do this type of thing to survive. It's about food , so is this website. Continue, Mr. Kuban.......
calliope at 6:36PM on 01/13/09
This is a perfectly interesting, perfectly appropriate article.
annien at 7:52PM on 01/13/09
There is no promotion of shoplifting in the article. I found it interesting and appropiate for serious eats. I doubt there are many of you out there who have never shoplifted, so relax.
sailordave at 8:30PM on 01/13/09
I've actually always wondered about the mindset of shoplifters, so I found the story pretty interesting. I really don't see it as an endorsement of shoplifting - it's just addressing what's out there.
piccola at 8:33PM on 01/13/09
My favorite part of the article is this:
Do you remember the first thing you shoplifted?:
Of course, it was a sausage. It was a really expensive sausage that I put under my pants.
(We love you, Adam Kuban. Don't let the man get you down.)
ReneeRobinson at 9:27PM on 01/13/09
I don't want to see SE practicing self-censorship. I think we've all experienced enough of that nonsence during recent history. Yes, the guy is a jerk, without a doubt. So now we've seen that there are in fact, people like this. Who knows, he may be a former Enron exec ,the mind set would be right...
chanterelle at 9:37PM on 01/13/09
My first reaction was identical to carriebwc's (seriously, total it up, next time you shop there), my second one, "THAT's interesting... next time I'm shopping at Whole Foods I'm going to be watching the other shoppers veeeeery sharply...".
And I bet many of you will be, too, which will hardly make shoplifters' efforts any easier.
I honestly don't think posting this was a poor choice, it was good one. Besides, if we're going to be purely objective about things, this IS interesting (and I have difficulty believing that some of the indignant respondents don't watch some of the programmes on TV that present all sorts of real-life unpleasantness, including things far more horrific than this), and, even if this does prompt a few others to attempt to shoplift (which to me sounds a bit questionable; most people are not so malleable that a single post can prompt them to be thieves, without any previous thoughts of it), there are also going to be a lot more of us out there... watching.
mongoose at 4:32AM on 01/14/09
Serious Eats Talk: Food Theft
Adam Kuban at 4:51PM on 01/14/09
Adam, I don't know if it's just my computer, but clicking on that link gives a 404 message.
mongoose at 3:13AM on 01/15/09
404 here also.
sailordave at 4:19AM on 01/15/09