Turkey Talk: Cook's Illustrated's Chris Kimball
Every Thanksgiving we check in with food magazine editors around the country to see how they have gone about putting together their Thanksgiving issues. The reductive and obsessive Chris Kimball, founding editor and publisher of Cook's Illustrated and host of America's Test Kitchen, is always refreshingly honest and forthcoming.
"I am not in favor of green vegetables. I'm a white, tan, and orange food guy."
Your subhead on the pumpkin pie piece in the magazine is fighting words in some quarters: "The best thing about pumpkin pie is that you only have to eat it once a year." Once in awhile we do back and do something again if we learn something about it in the interim. I made our old pumpkin pie recipe for years. It was fine but not fabulous, so I gave it to our test cooks and told them start again. I really like what they came up with [recipe]. In a custard pie there is no reason to use fresh sweet potatoes or fresh pumpkin for that matter.
For your turkey recipe this year you take apart the bird. Turkey parts is radical, I know. I don't cook my turkey this way, but it does solve the problem of the white meat drying out [recipe]. Cook's Illustrated is a democracy, it's a republic, it's not a monarchy, we don't tell people what to cook, we simply respond to surveys of what people want to talk about. The fact is a lot of people don't want to flip a 20 pound bird. I personally don't care about the skin, if you want crispy skin you have to do a lot more work. My attitude is it's 50 percent easier not to worry about the damn skin.
Tell us about your green beans. This is a variation on a theme [recipe]. You combine steaming and sauteing. This recipe starts with sauteing and then you end up steaming the green beans for a couple of minutes. It's a basic approach to vegetables on a stove top that works really well.
The sweet potatoes recipe calls for slicing then roasting the sweet potatoes? You get a lot more caramelization that way. It's simple, delicious, and it works [recipe]. That's what we try to do with every recipe.
You have previously told us you are not a green vegetable lover. I am not in favor of green vegetables. I'm a white, tan, and orange food guy. No one eats green vegetables, anyway. It's a guilt thing. My wife makes Brussels sprouts with tons of pork products. Now those are really good because of the pork products. Everyone loves them, even my vegan 20-year-old. My guess is when my back is turned, some of the bacon disappears. She doesn't even try to lecture me any more. She tried proselytizing. It didn't work. She tried to tell me about cancer and barbecue, but it didn't go over very well.
Cook's Illustrated's Thanksgiving Recipes
Slow Roasted Turkey with Gravy
Sautéed Green Beans with Garlic and Herbs
Roasted Sweet Potatoes
Pumpkin Pie
Previous Turkey Talks
Gourmet's Ruth Reichl
Bon Appetit's Barbara Fairchild
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12 Comments:
He is always so negative.....Drives me crazy to watch him!
Hunnyoil at 2:08PM on 11/19/08
No one eats green vegetables? That's just typical of how wrongheaded and out of touch that magazine and associated television shows are. Unbelievable.
mphughes at 2:13PM on 11/19/08
hahahaha, he's hilarious. i love it.
people need to relax.
foodinmouth at 2:27PM on 11/19/08
Christopher Kimball is my second-favorite fictional character, right after Jesus Christ.
Luther at 2:48PM on 11/19/08
Kimball is an ass. Good thing his blithering inanity is on the first page(s) of the otherwise fabulous Cook's Illustrated, making it easy to skip over.
rheogs at 3:49PM on 11/19/08
rheogs, I don't think it's necessary to resort to name-calling in a Serious Eats conversation. I actually think Chris is pretty cool. He's forthright, really smart, and knows his stuff. I think kenji is right. Chris and his crew provide an invaluable service to serious eaters everywhere. I think sometimes people overreact to Chris' extremely dry and droll sense of humor. Re: his green vegetables riff, I think his tongue is plantly firmly in his cheek. And I do understand that once people become television personalities they are subject to visceral viewer reactions.
Ed Levine at 4:16PM on 11/19/08
Fair enough; scratch my initial sentence and replace with "I personally don't care for Christopher Kimball's style".
rheogs at 5:58PM on 11/19/08
believe it or not, I think CK was a personal chef to the Grateful Dead in the early stages of his career...at the very least he was a serious dead head. Now i personally think he's a fun sucker but i guess he can't be all that bad if he was feeding jerry and the boys!
Judyep at 10:23PM on 11/19/08
I enjoy Cook's Illustrated, but I more and more find myself reading Kimball's essay and shaking my head over what seems to be a lecture on values in a food magazine. I read that part last.
Tonecat at 10:56PM on 11/19/08
Sweet Potato Pie, topped with pecans, brown sugar and butter, put under a hot broiler until it caramelizes, served with good vanilla ice cream.
NotAmerican at 2:31AM on 11/20/08
He reminds me of Stephen Colbert, except I don't think that there's a difference between the Chris Kimball on TV and Chris Kimball off-camera.
charm city cupcake at 8:09AM on 11/22/08
I happen to love all things Cooks Illustrated, Cooks Country, and America's Test Kitchen, including Chris Kimball and his dry sense of humor!
Thanks for the turkey recipe Kenji, I'll be making it this week, and really look forward to it!
I can't seem to make the new pumpkin pie though, the old CI one is our family's favorite and we're not quite ready to change.
bobcatsteph3 at 8:51PM on 11/22/08