Ferran Adria: The New Foam Meets the Old Foam
Here's a question for all you serious eaters: Where do you take El Bulli's Ferran Adrià, the Spanish toque god, molecular gastronomy master, who closes his restaurant in Spain for half the year just to come up with new dishes and new gastronomic ideas, to eat in New York City? Where do I take the man who is generally considered to be the greatest, most influential and innovative chef in the world, for a late breakfast or brunch in Gotham? Not an easy question, is it?
According to Wikipedia, Adrià's stated goal is to "provide unexpected contrasts of flavor, temperature, and texture. Nothing is what it seems. The idea is to provoke, surprise and delight the diner." So I decided I had to take Adrià somewhere that would provoke, surprise, and delight him.
I thought about one of David Chang's places, because Chang often cites Adrià as one of his heroes, but his restaurants are not open at 10:30 a.m. Same with Wylie Dufresne's Adrià-influenced WD-50. Plus, Adrià doesn't need to come to New York to see what he has wrought. Ferran Adrià can find that anywhere, in virtually any city in the world. That's how pervasive his influence has become. He needs provocation and surprise and delight, and I was determined to find it for him somewhere in New York's food culture.
So where do you take the man who has cooked everything? Somewhere he can taste food and experience something and someplace for the very first time, somewhere that will resonate in his heart, soul, and palate. That's how I found myself at Katz's Deli on the Lower East Side eating a pastrami sandwich, a hot dog, a knoblewurst, and washing it all down with New York City's own contribution to the food foam culture, the egg cream. And just to complete the experience we headed over to Russ & Daughters for a bagel with smoked salmon and cream cheese.
Did he like it? He lurved it all. Well, not quite all. It turns out there are limits to his tolerance for foam, especially foam done badly.
Adrià was in town to promote his new book, A Day at El Bulli. I figured that when in Rome (New York) he should eat like a New Yorker. That's how we ended up at Katz's.
Adrià smiled knowingly as we walked into Katz's. Though he had never been to a Jewish deli, he understood the feelings of generous bounty evoked by Katz's. What he didn't understand was the ticket billing system. I suggested to him through his translator that he give a punch ticket to every patron at El Bulli. Each time one of the thirty courses comes he could punch the ticket. Somehow I don't think that's going to happen at El Bulli, a place that receives two million requests a year for one of its 2,000 coveted spots available nightly from May through September (next year the restaurant is not going to open until June 20).
We sidled up to the sandwich line and ordered two pastrami sandwiches, one on club and one on rye. When our Dominican sandwich maker overheard Adrià speaking Spanish to both his translator and his American colleague Jose Andres (who was along for the meal) he immediately started a conversation with him. Now who didn't understand what was being said? Me of course.
Adrià may have never been to a deli or eaten pastrami before, but on some primal level he understood why Katz's is important. He said the following through a translator: "Places like these have soul, that the food it serves obviously connects very deeply to its customers. I understand this pastrami, these pickles, the sausage. I can connect them to things we eat in Spain. Believe it or not, that's what we try to do at El Bulli, try to connect what we serve to our guests in the same fashion. We just do it in a different way."
While there's no Katz's-like kibitizing with your server at El Bulli, Adrià finds other ways to connect with his customers: "When you walk into El Bulli, the first thing you see, you experience, is the kitchen. That way we get people to feel at ease, to help them relax before all the surprises come. It's like when you have people over to dinner at your house and you invite them to open your fridge. It makes everyone relaxed and not uptight. It makes them feel more confident. It makes them feel more at home."
What Adrià couldn't connect to is the egg cream: "I must say I don't really understand this thing you call an egg cream. It doesn't seem to go well with the pastrami, and doesn't have much flavor. And there doesn't seem to be any egg in it."
He was right. Katz's made Ferran Adrià a truly awful egg cream, in a plasticized paper cup no less, and here's the ultimate shame, no foamy head. I obviously hadn't sufficiently explained Adrià's importance to the egg cream maker.
The bad ice cream didn't stop Ferran. He tore into the pastrami and the knoblewurst with gusto:"What I love to do is create something unique, something like this, and share it with my guests. That creating, that sharing, is what it's all about for all chefs, I do believe."
He understood the magic of Katz's: "Food and the experience of eating it should be magical. Eating this food is magical in its own way. It is special, it makes people feel good to eat here."
We walked down the street to Russ & Daughters, where Joshua Russ Tupper shared the 100 year-old history of his family's business. Adrià sampled a bagel with cream cheese with smoked salmon and pronounced it delicious. But it was more than deliciousness that he recognized at both Russ & Daughters and Katz's.
As we were leaving Russ & Daughters, Adrià smiled knowingly and said, "You can feel the souls of these places. That's what I want people to feel at El Bulli."
He thanked me and turned to get into his car. Looking over his shoulder he said, "You should come to eat at El Bulli."
I hope I get to take him up on his offer. Until then I'm working on my own molecular gastronomy (or deconstuctivist cooking as Adrià likes to call his food) equation:
Pastrami plus bagels and lox minus a bad egg cream=heart and soul and serious deliciousness.
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23 Comments:
Wow! What an amazing experience to not just hang out with Ferran, but to take him to try something NEW!
I was at the New York Public Library event he did and when an audience member asked him what he likes to eat in New York, he mentioned this trip to Katz.
Ed, if he's suggesting you go to El Bulli, you better take him up on his offer.
thedairyshow at 8:58AM on 10/20/08
What ... you didn't take him to Denny's?? ;-)
Very cool to see that he experienced NYC as a New Yorker would. If heart and soul doesn't live in the local culture of a region, then making food global has gone much too far.
Good stuff, Ed. Thanks for sharing this.
LunaPierCook at 9:03AM on 10/20/08
Katz's & Di Fara would be at the top of my list, way ahead of Chang, as well as Barney Greengrass. Can't wait to read about your dinner at El Bulli :P
lazysundae at 9:23AM on 10/20/08
If you need company on the trip to Spain I'd be more than happy to come along.
JustinH at 9:23AM on 10/20/08
Very cool! I would have chosen the same place. I'm glad the Master Chef got to see a little of the old soul of New York.
The egg cream is disturbing, though. Where do you go for a consistently good egg cream nowadays?
empath at 9:45AM on 10/20/08
I took a friend to Katz to give him just that, an experience that really feels like you are in New York. Even though I appreciate good talented fine dinning experiences they are not what makes me love food.
The "connection" is where that soul (as said by Adria) can be transmitted by the moment you come in, order, eat and then leave the spot with that happy grin that no one can take away. How blissful!
Jewish deli's are at the very heart and soul of New York, is sad to know that they have diminished in number due to lack of appreciation or simply because people are bombarded with too many global choices or who knows what else.
Regardless, I just want to say Kudos Ed! for keeping it real, we need more writers like you, who bring time and again that emotional love for food into your work and shares it with the rest of us.
czeledon at 10:16AM on 10/20/08
An egg cream at Katz's? No way! You should have had a Cel-Ray. There was also no point in having what they call nowadays a "club roll." Years ago, it was a special loaf. Today, it's just a cut of the cheapest baguette.
Lippy at 10:53AM on 10/20/08
what an experience... Ed, I can serve as your translator during your trip to Spain... my bags are already packed.
MadelynRodriguez at 10:58AM on 10/20/08
It's funny that the greatest chef in the world had never eaten at a Jewish deli or had a pastrami sandwich--things many of us take for granted.
Then again, they kicked all the Jews out of Spain 500 years ago.
salpico at 12:56PM on 10/20/08
Okay this is too funny. When my niece moved to NYC from MPLS where were the two places I first took her? Russ & Daughters and Katz' Deli. I guess if it's good enough for Marisa, it's good enough for Adria.
Really not surprised at all. People who don't get it make distinctions that are false and that he utterly rejects. It's not about being obtuse or high-brow with Adria, it's about getting back to the elements of enjoying food. Child like wonder. If you can't get it at Katz you're dead.
Sadly, Salpico is correct, too. While I find Spain so sympatico the horrific racism on display during the olympics goes to show, no culture is perfect nor better. All flawed. It's just which flavor of flawed you want to munch on....
jacquelinec at 3:04PM on 10/20/08
An egg cream with a pastrami sandwich??? Sorry, you deserved a bad egg cream. No self-respecting deli-goer would have anything with a pastrami sandwich except a Cel-Ray (as a previous poster mentioned) or a glass of tea.
momdgp at 4:07PM on 10/20/08
I have to "third" the vote for Cel-Ray. There's a reason they call it Jewish champagne. There's no flavor quite like it, and it rocks with pastrami -- it cuts through the fattiness and goes weirdly well with a half-sour.
Kathleen Purvis at 4:27PM on 10/20/08
Thanks for sharing, Ed...a great story.
elaine nan at 4:41PM on 10/20/08
Nice! I'm glad you went this route instead of taking him to a Chang establishment like you initially suggested (which I too probably would have thought of initially). I really gotta get my butt over to Katz's...
Emily Koh at 6:52PM on 10/20/08
At 10:30 am, you can only choose a deli or someplace for waffles and fried chicken. You chose wisely...
BirdDoggie at 7:02PM on 10/20/08
Cel-ray definitely!
Other than that, what a wonderful account
I still remember the delicious Katz's knockwurst w kraut I had in 1994. My last visit there since I left the NYC area
gaffer at 8:47PM on 10/20/08
"Where do you go for a consistently good egg cream nowadays?"
Junior's in Brooklyn.
BKNY64 at 9:58PM on 10/20/08
Wow...wow...
Who knew the famous Adria would make it to Katz' Deli!
Though I don't get all of the foam and crazy food stylings of El Buli (I managed to live in Spain for 6 months and the best food that I had was a Calamari sandwich- which I still dream about!), I have to love the Maestro for trying an egg cream (even a bad one!), bagel and cream cheese (I still remember the first one I had in New York in 1994!) and pastrami on rye (NYC, 2000!).
Maybe I will try for one of those coveted spots...you never know!
mcanna at 11:01PM on 10/20/08
perfect choice!
cybercita at 8:52PM on 10/21/08
I'm not a Cel-Ray fan; I go for a Dr Brown's Cream Soda, myself. An egg cream? Not so much.
I would have taken him to Shopsin's, myself. But that's me. And they make a hell of an egg cream there!
klg19 at 8:09PM on 10/26/08
yep cel-ray
i think the best egg cream is at sammy's
norman at 11:15PM on 10/26/08
oh gosh, people, what's an egg cream and a cel-ray?
snowmoonelk at 11:27AM on 10/27/08
Come on! Barney Freakin Greengrass - I can assure you he wouldn't forget that smell any time soon. On a serious note, what a way to spend the day! With the Mad Genius of Gastronomy. And the thing is, he is such a funny guy. For those who have been put off by the categorization of "molecular food innovation" all I can say is that it isn't what you think. it is about creating new powerful experiences for the taste buds - kind of HD for your tongue. If you want to learn more about the man and come close to experiencing his genius, grab a copy of his book, "A Day at El Bulli" Here is a taste of what you are in for :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_osiPxpXDNE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UEzDmmfDHU&feature=related
humbert at 6:05PM on 11/24/08