In Videos: McDonald's Coffee Ad Sets Feminism Back 30 Years
If you ladies wear thick-framed glasses, read books by fireplaces, or know of exotic-sounding countries, then you're not part of the target audience for McDonald's new McCafé drinks. Basically a caricature for politically enlightened, well-read women, the two in this ad admit they don't really know where Paraguay is—ergo, they must want their coffee from McWorld. If you're sick of the chi-chi smart people café vibe, and of hiding your knees, then get on over to McDonald's! Because apparently they like you in your short dress, without a high school degree! The ad, after the jump, along with another making poseurs of the male coffeehouse crowd.
McDonald's Coffee Ad Questions Female Poseur-ism
[via Feministing]
McDonald's Coffee Ad Questions Male Poseur-ism
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I can't watch these here at work, but I'm so loving the witty, acidic commentary--I'm on the floor, laughing my butt off. It's hard to type from down here. =(
OneWallKitchen at 12:30PM on 09/24/08
These ads have followed on exactly what the country has been taught over the last, oh, 8 or 10 years. Smart and well-educated = elitist and bad.
I don't think the ad set Feminism back at all though, that's been well covered and accomplished already this year. This ad isn't a blip on the radar of setting Feminism back any further.
ccbweb at 12:30PM on 09/24/08
Oh I don't know, I think they're kind of funny. They've got a male version as well as a female version, so I don't think they're minimizing the feminist movement. I think they're just poking fun at the (perceived) pretentious Starbucks crowd. (Of which, apparently, I am one since I wear dark glasses, don't own a pair of heels, and actually care where my coffee comes from ;) )
ilovebutter at 12:31PM on 09/24/08
I think they pretty well cleared up any issues of their brightness when they chose to go to McDonald's for coffee.
By the way, if you don't know the geography, it's Paraguay, Bolivia, Peru, Sweden, Turkey, and the Hanging Gardens of Babylon.
worldcupfever at 12:31PM on 09/24/08
Yeah, those women clearly don't have high school "degree[s]." I applaud their rejection of coffee shop phoneys.
smokeboy at 12:38PM on 09/24/08
wow.
add that to my mile long list of reasons why i won't go to mcdonalds.
i feel so much dumber for having watched it...in fact, i think i'm going to go show my knees now (?--seriously, what is that about?)
gastronomeg at 12:39PM on 09/24/08
Oh, please... it is a funny commercial. It pokes fun at people who are mock pretentious. Personally I think it's funny. Oh, and btw- I used to be the girl wearing the black glasses and conducting poetry readings at my friends coffee shop... this was way back in 1998!! The funky shop went out of business when starbucks popped up on every corner and in every grocery store.
Goes off with a sigh. Silly McDonald's AND Starbucks- you can't fake originality!!
sbelle at 12:40PM on 09/24/08
The ads got a chuckle out of me. I like them. If I really thought hard about it, then I can sort of make the connection that it's anti-feminism.
Maybe I'm an idiot.. Even though I know that Paraguay is a country, if you ask me to point out Paraguay on a globe w/o names of countries... well then I don't know where Paraguay is either.
foodinmouth at 12:55PM on 09/24/08
@foodinmouth - I don't exactly think that makes you an idiot, especially if McCain doesn't even know where Spain is.
worldcupfever at 12:59PM on 09/24/08
*sigh* It is possible for a woman to be educated and intelligent and absolutely gorgeous! *ech-em* :D
hungrychristel at 1:05PM on 09/24/08
ilovebutter- this is completely off topic, I know... I peeked at your 'about me' profile page. Anyway, the pics of your re-done master bath are AMAZING. What is the paint color? My hubby and I are getting ready to restore a home built in the 1930's (well, we are hiring someone to restore it... neither one of us is any good at home diy). I would love to use that paint color in our den area. Thanks bunches!
sbelle at 1:07PM on 09/24/08
Is it me or does it sound like the guy says "crummy lattes"?
Kmelion at 1:07PM on 09/24/08
So wait - even ignoring the sexist and anti-intellectual parts of the ad: McDonald's thinks people would want to relax and sip a coffee...in a bright orange, hard-plastic booth under hard fluorescent lights, smelling nothing but aging grease and cleaning solution?
And instead of listening to jazz, listen to...nothing?
silvermike at 1:07PM on 09/24/08
it's not nothing silvermike - there are the kids screaming :)
love2cook at 1:18PM on 09/24/08
@silvermike- Right you are! It's pretty stupid to make fun of your competitions atmosphere when you can't boast any of your own...except I guess in the case of men who want to talk about sports (?).
liwinegirl at 1:26PM on 09/24/08
hey now. there's not a thing wrong with talking about sports.
worldcupfever at 1:33PM on 09/24/08
No, what's funny is that some McDonalds (like the one in our hood) play jazz. All the time.
mckaig at 1:53PM on 09/24/08
I think they're harmless and hilarious.
sessjess at 2:43PM on 09/24/08
I'm just happy I can show my knees in peace.
Laurel E at 3:12PM on 09/24/08
Wow talk about link baiting.
palmsey at 3:48PM on 09/24/08
These are harmless and amusing. Quit being Politically Correct fun Nazis.
Sheesh
SkinnyFatty at 3:49PM on 09/24/08
Yeah, these are just hilarious. ugh.
worldcupfever at 4:05PM on 09/24/08
silvermike -- the funny thing is, isn't mcdonald's starting to open more stores with a starbucks feel? as in, not the red/yellow/white bright colors of the mcdonald's of my youth, but... let's say like the one near my office, where there are the "big kid" chairs: a vinyl but puffy looking chair you can actually move in a sage green, the wall color may actually be similar... perhaps some coral?
anysuchname at 4:32PM on 09/24/08
LOL SkinnyFatty
hungrychristel at 5:32PM on 09/24/08
I think they're kinda funny. Still never gonna go to McDonald's for a capuccino, but still. If we want to turn this into a sociopolitical discussion, though, this is the first McDonald's commercial in recent memory that features white people. Apparently white people will only come to McDonald's if they serve fancy coffee products.
mh330 at 7:02PM on 09/24/08
McDonalds ambiance- the stench of old fryer grease, the grizzled masses chawing their Big Macs and sucking down their oversized drinks, shrieking children ravaging the pee stained indoor playground, the drone of "welcometoMcDondaldsmayItakeyourorder , the shriek of that alarm telling the cooks the fries are ready.....
hmmm....I will take jazz please.
bisbee at 7:03PM on 09/24/08
I feel like I should hear one of the presidential candidates at the end say, "I'm [insert presidential candidate who derides "elitists"] and I approved this commercial."
Tokyorosa at 8:03PM on 09/24/08
Oh come on... as a feminist who grew up in the '60s & '70s, what has set feminism back, is the current crop of so called feminist leaders.. talk about harpies. They epitomize the negative stereotypes feminists like myself have defended the movement against for decades now. I can well understand why some younger women tend to view feminism so negatively.
Anyway, I'm no fan of McDonald's, but the commercials are funny (this is the first of them that I've seen). I'm so sick and tired of pompous, pretentious types, it's embarassing to witness those sorts in real life. They overcompensate and are annoying. I think spoofing them in this way is necessary, and hope to see more of the same.
Mares at 8:48PM on 09/24/08
On my soapbox:
I'm just as tired of pretension and poseurs as the rest of you, but I agree with the sentiment posted by ccbweb [wherein smart and well-educated = elitist and bad]. When did we become a nation of toothless ya-hoos, celebrating the dumbing down of everything? I'm not being a humour-nazi, I'm just saddened by the fact that this sentiment seems to be the one that garnered us our current electorate ["Why, I could have a beer with him!"] and might dictate the election of the next ["She's so pretty!"]. Sigh.
Off my soapbox. Thank you and have a great lunch.
sallyforth at 9:40PM on 09/24/08
After viewing, I'm of the opinion that it's not anti feminist as much as flogging mass production versions of espresso drinks. My kneejerk reaction is to condemn these ads for employng the disturbing "shucks, book lernin' aint everthing" philosophy that this society can't afford to indulge in. But this is a land of choice, and I live in an area where I can go to coffeehouses where I don't hear about sports or listen to bimbo prattle.
Tonecat at 10:15PM on 09/24/08
Using the dictionary definition of feminism*:
1.Belief in the social, political, and economic equality of the sexes
2. The movement organized around this belief
. . . it does not appear that this ad would set feminism back 30 years in either category - particularly as the guys had equal treatment.
Using the definition of "feminism" as "the empowerment of women in ways they choose for themselves" it would appear that perhaps the ad even assisted feminism.
Mmm. Stereotypes. Caution. Sometimes smart intellectual women can act silly and sometimes they do like to wear miniskirts. And sometimes high school dropouts do go on to become VP's at top Wall Street firms where MBA's slather to join.
Sometimes high school dropouts do manage somehow to read and write and think. Sometimes college grads do not, regardless of the degree bestowed upon them at cost to the parental bank account and the student loans.
And strangely enough, I've seen college professors (both male and female at McDonald's). Probably due to salary levels.
foodvox at 12:23PM on 09/25/08
Oh sorry. Meant to add
*American Heritage Dictionary 4th Edition
to that last post.
But my finger slipped.
Sad that there's no "edit" thingie to click to fix it rather than using all this extra space and time. :(
foodvox at 12:25PM on 09/25/08
Okay, what's up with the backlash against sports talk? People are talking like it's just this unwashed, boorish annoyance.
worldcupfever at 2:33PM on 09/25/08
@worldcupfever: Hanging Gardens of Babylon... Switzerland.
The first problem with the ads is that they're anti-intellectual, I agree, but I think it's the gender stereotyping that make them anti-feminist. The comments on the Feministing post are interesting.
Matcha at 5:35PM on 09/25/08
Awesome. I was praying for a Switzerland drop.
worldcupfever at 8:58AM on 09/26/08
sally forth,
You prove my point.. “nation of toothless ya-hoos”??? Do you mean that anyone who isn’t exactly like you is somehow, the negative stereotype you feel the need to reduce them to? If anyone still can’t quite fathom the fact that there is a hue and cry against elitism, they should spend more than a few moments contemplating your disdain. Perhaps you should consider the fact that you have a problem that needs dealing with, and seek help.
I live in the midwest (I moved here from back east in ‘06), and each Saturday I go to the local farmer’s market. A few weeks back, I watched something that was disgusting. A clutch of women, who you, no doubt, would feel rather at home with, standing around blocking the right of way, arms filled with gladiolas, having a gab fest. They were oblivious to the fact that they stood in a narrow passage way, and that a man in a wheelchair was trying to get their attention so he could pass. They ignored him, until my daughter went over to add her voice to his, requesting that they move their discussion to where they wouldn’t be obstructing this poor man’s passage.
In the spring of ‘07, a group of female college students threatened to sue the town government, if they weren’t given a stall to sell their hand knitted/crocheted nonsense at the farmer’s market. The space is limited, and there wasn’t any available, but they got their way, as did more like them who want to sell their handmade soap (my daughter bought some, and got a skin irritation as it wasn’t made properly, and was filed with raw lye crystals). Several farmers lost their spaces, and for absolutely no good reason. No one buys what is essentially garbage, but the precious egos of a handful of selfish young women were salved.
Mares at 10:00PM on 09/26/08
My reaction was the same as ilovebutter's. The commercials were funny. Kind of dumb, but funny.
CanadianFoodieGirl at 10:32PM on 09/28/08
As a person who is no fan of McDonald's, or any other fast food schlock, I do feel the need to interject. I thought the commercials were funny; why has our society turned into a group of whiners with no sense of humor? It is obviously tongue in cheek, over the top humor. Are we all really that sensitive?
If it is an exercise to undermine the efforts of feminism then, what of the advertisements geared toward our male counterparts? Were they created to offend homosexuals or metrosexuals? See how absurd that sounds? Please try to keep a sense of humor; we have enough real worries about the demise of feminism with the upcoming election. Just go to a real coffee house discuss the hell out of it.
degualle at 11:26AM on 09/29/08
Bah, they're all in good fun. Some people just take things way too seriously...
JigsawJones at 3:45PM on 09/29/08
I thought that was pretty clever. But nothing has set feminism back as much as Hilary Clinton.
WannabeTVchef at 7:07PM on 09/29/08