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America's Heroes, Grinders, Subs, and More

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Hoagies, heroes, subs, wedges, po'boys, grinders, and the list goes on. No matter what you call your hometown hero, we're here to talk about America's best hot and cold versions—for now, we'll define it as a sandwich on a long individual bread or baguette. Whether the name refers to the people who eat them (Cubans, Italians) or the shape (submarine, torpedo, zeppelin), the long list of monikers should at the very least give you a hint of the importance and history of this most beloved and humble sandwich.

Submarines

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Photograph from Benton on Flickr

Perhaps the most widespread term, a sub is a sandwich served on a long Italian roll, topped with a variety of meats and cheeses, lettuce, tomato, onion, oil and vinegar, salt and pepper, and maybe oregano. Some Philadelphians see subs as only a poor substitute for hoagies, which must be served on a roll that's crusty on the outside and soft on the inside. No matter if you're hailing from Philly or Boston, some argue that a sub can only be cold with no lettuce, while others see hot subs as part of the pack.

Heroes

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Photograph of Salumeria Biellese's beautiful mixed cold-cut hero by Robyn Lee

In the New York area, heroes usually can come hot or cold. Some have even theorized that New Yorkers purposely pronounce gyro incorrectly as to not confuse it with the hero. In Ed Levine's epic 2003 New York Times piece on cold heroes, he defines them as thus:

The hero is a sandwich of cured Italian meats. These are layered into a forearm's length of fresh crusty bread, often with a few slices of Italian cheese and a condiment or two atop them — pepperoncini, yes; roasted peppers, yes; mayonnaise, an emphatic no. Also, perhaps, a splash of vinegar, certainly a drizzle of olive oil. Some ground pepper, a sprinkle of salt. But no more. No sun-dried tomatoes sully the interior of a true hero, no pesto, no Brie, no fancy pants ingredients at all.

If you find yourself in the New York City area, head over to Leo's Latticini (or Mama's, as it's fondly called) for some amazing hot heroes that feature turkey or roast pork with fresh mozzarella and gravy. I got to try my first Mama's creation at Shea Stadium, but I'm still waiting for the real thing in Corona Park, Queens (46-02 104th Street, Queens NY 11368; at 46th Avenue). And of course, over at Serious Eats HQ, the ultimate favorite in Italian cold-cut heroes can be found at Salumeria Biellese, where Ed's BYOB translates to Bring Your Own Bread (376-378 Eighth Avenue, New York NY 10001; at 29th Street).

Hoagies

Hoagies are said to have originated in Philly, where you may get laughed at if you ask for mayo on yours instead of oil. To make things more complicated, a cheesesteak hoagie is a cheesesteak with lettuce and tomato. The term is most popularly used in not only Philly, but parts of New Jersey.

Cosmos, Torpedoes, Bombers, Zeppelins, and Wedges

These sandwiches don't seem to be particularly distinct from the aforementioned lot, except perhaps for region:

  • Cosmos: North Central Pennsylvania, and Williamsport, Pennsylvania
  • Torpedoes: San Diego, California, and Reno, Nevada
  • Bombers: Buffalo, New York
  • Zeppelins or zeps: Pennsylvania and New Jersey
  • Wedges: southeastern New York—Yonkers, Westchester County, and Fairfield County, Connecticut

Grinders

A term used in New England and the Midwest, grinder refers to toasted or warmed subs. In Philly, heroes, grinders, and subs are heated hoagies (depending on what part of Philly you're from). Some might distinguish grinders from toasted subs for having hot fillings to begin with. Jennie Grinders can be found in the Midwest, especially in the Des Moines, Iowa, area, and consist of Italian sausage, ground beef, green peppers, tomato sauce, and mozzarella melted in hoagie rolls.

Po'Boys

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Photograph from Buck82 on Flickr

Found on Louisiana French bread around the Gulf Coast, po'boys can be filled with fried seafood (shrimp, catfish, oysters, etc.), sausage, roast beef, or many other types meats. A "dressed" po'boy can come with mustard, mayo, tomatoes, onions, and pickles, while the "undressed" comes plain.

Cheesesteaks

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Photograph from WallyG on Flickr

A long sandwich deserving a category of its own: thinly sliced steak, browned on a griddle and topped with cheese (for Philly authenticity: Cheez Whiz). Other cheese options are American and Provolone, and there's always onions, green and hot peppers, and mushrooms, if you like. With pizza sauce and mozzarella, you've got a pizza steak. In the New England area, a cheesesteak with onions, peppers, mushrooms, and Genoa salami or sausages becomes a steak bomb.

Roast Pork Sandwiches

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Photograph from Chris Baer on Flickr

The other Philly sandwich favorite: roast pork, garlicky broccoli rabe, and sharp provolone cheese. Just this spring, Joy Manning did a serious rundown of Philly's best here on Serious Eats.

Banh Mi

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Photograph from Pabo76 on Flickr

A remnant of French colonialism rears its head in this Vietnamese sandwich: pork roll, pork paté, pickled slivers of carrots and daikon, sliced cucumber, cilantro, mayonnaise, Sriracha and hot peppers—all stuffed into a toasted baguette. Other versions can include roast pork, meatballs, chicken, and sardines.

Though Nicky's has a lot of fans, my favorite banh mi is at Saigon Bakery in Little Italy, where it shares its real estate with jewelry vendors and serves up football-size sandwiches stuffed with some mighty tasty char siu.

Saigon Bakery
138 Mott Street, New York NY 10002 (nr. Grand St.)

Italian Beef

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Photograph from Selva on Flickr

A popular sandwich found in and around Chicago: thin slices of juicy roast beef in a long Italian roll, topped with sweet peppers or hot giardiniera (a spicy Italian relish that includes peppers, celery, cauliflower, carrots, oregano, and garlic). If you ask for it dry, the juices will be allowed to drip off of the beef before it gets put into the sandwich. The next step up is "wet" (juices left on beef), then "dipped," where the whole sandwich gets a quick dunk into the roasting juices. Ask for it "juicy" and it'll take a longer dip, while "soaked" will be as sloppy as it can get. Eaten with the "Chicago lean," the Italian Beef can also be topped with mozzarella or provolone. Some proud Italian Beef fans may claim that the only means for authenticity is to have it at least dipped—but over at ItalianBeef.com, they say "Real Chicagoans eat their sandwiches any damned way they want to." Not going to argue with that.

French Dip

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Photograph from Ulteriorepicure on Flickr

A neater version of the Italian Beef, French Dips are served au jus—its hot juices on the side and without the giardiniara. Although two different restaurants in Los Angeles claim to have invented the French Dip, both originally dipped the sandwich in the juices rather than serving it on the side.

Cuban

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A sandwich that makes me want to hop on a flight to Miami: roast pork, ham, Swiss cheese, sliced pickles and mustard on Cuban bread, toasted in a plancha. Traditionalists may frown upon it, but other versions may include salami, mayonnaise, lettuce, and tomato.

I took this photo of Margon's cuban in Midtown Manhattan. With its addition of salami slices, some may call it heretical. I just call it delicious.

Spuckies

Native to certain Boston neighborhoods like the North End, the terms comes from the roll used: the spucadella, which tends to have pointier ends than subs and are top-split. Other spelling variations include "spukies" and "spukkies."

Maine Italian

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Photograph from Dugasj on Flickr

This Maine version of subs can refer to any variety of fillings (i.e. Roast Beef Italian, Veggie Italian), but the regular Maine Italian gets ham or salami, cheese, tomatoes, green peppers, onions, black olives, sour pickles, oil, salt & pepper, served on a long soft roll (sometimes top-split).

French Bread Pizza Sub

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Our own Adam Kuban ventured out on a very cold night in Ithaca, New York, to try the original French bread pizza sub at the Hot Truck—French bread split and slathered with tomato sauce, cheese, and all sorts of toppings, then baked open-faced.

Author's note: British Sandwich Shops—
When I studied at Oxford last year, I loved that the city was filled with sandwich shops like the beloved Alternative Tuck Shop and the Oxford Sandwich Company that made sandwiches on long narrow baguettes for only a few quid. My favorite combinations included steak with brie, mushrooms and horseradish; rocket, goat cheese, and fig paste; and the mayonnaise mess that was the duck and scallions baguette from the Campus Buttery. I've yet to find anything in like it back in the States.

41 Comments:

Great round up of some of America's most beloved sandwiches. Yay hoagies, cheesesteaks and roast pork sandwiches!

I think you could do a whole segment on the steak bomb here in N.E. A lot of great sub shops with very loyal customers. I think I'll have one for lunch today.

This post made made me well hungry...

I've tried some of these whilst in the States, others I've just read about. I've never tried a 'American Cuban' but I guess having numerous versions of the original in while in Havana might count for something ;)

I've already tried to recreate some of these, as you can see on my blog, and after reading this (as well as looking at the gorgeous photos) I'm well up for trying to recreate even more of them.

// Mike
http://www.freestylecookery.com

I grew up in Massachusetts, went to college in Connecticut, and grinders were available hot or cold.

To this date, I don't believe any other article on SE made my mouth water as much as this one. I can't stop looking at the submarine and hero photos.

this is probably my favorite Serious Eats post to date. I know its may not be the most glamorous food item, but I always feel like sandwiches are one of the things that makes America great.

Corny I know, but true.

Well done!

it's an hour till lunch time and you just made me very, very hungry!

This is a great article, my Dad who was born and raised in Boston always called them spuckies. Brought back good memories. Terrific!!!

The Italian beef is a top-notch sandwich. I was so sad when I moved to Atlanta to find that it hadn't really gotten a foothold south of the Mason-Dixon line.

Actually, a really good Philly hoagie looks more like your sub photo. It should be juicy and bursting with ingredients. Mmmm, may have to get one right now!

I, too, grew up in New England and all grinders were always hot or cold.
Still are.

i NEED a sub sandwich right now. a REAL one -- Subway or Quizno's just won't cut it (and never really do) after looking at these photos.

i won't stop drooling until i get one.

MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

Does anyone know where you can get a Brazilian Bauru sandwich in the US? That sandwich kicks bunda...oh, how I miss it!

muffaletta? or i suppose the bread is sorta round and therefore doesn't fit in this category...

What a terrific sandwich roundup! I wasn't hungry at all before I looked at all those photos and now I'm starving. Really looking forward to trying a banh mi soon...

Sriracha on a bahn mi? Egads, only for tourists. Tell me this isn't how they really make them in NY!? Chilies. Sliced chilies. Either thai or jalepeño.

*Stands up and applauds*

If Banh Mi is there, why aren't Cubans or Tortas on there either? BTW Banh mis is awesome. Mmmmm... Pate, pork roll, pickled dikon and aioli on toasted baguette is heaven.

Oh yeah. What about the muffuletta sandwich.

@madebytam and LadyMarmalade, Re: muffuletta, torta, and beef on weck-- We had to stick with the criteria that the sandwich must be on a long piece of bread (and I did cover Cubans, btw). Muffalettas are round, tortas are oblongish (tough call on that one), and beef on weck is served on a roll. A sandwich round-up for all the rest not covered here may be in the works for the future, so don't worry!

DUDE! Considering you seem to be concentrating on east coast eats, I am SHOCKED you didn't mention Fat Sandwiches! They may not be well known outside of Jersey, but you don't have to be a Rutger's graduate have experience this gluttonous heaven on bread! My alma matter's joint.

mmmmm delicious. i think my favorite has got to be the cheesesteak hoagie though.

Great sandwich primer. The banh mi is my favorite.

I am so hungry right now that I'm considering licking the pictures on my screen. Just kidding, although it is tempting. :)

Nice roundup, Jenn. I had to go get a sandwich for lunch after this! Any post that does that is a post that hit the mark.

@serpentine: Yikes! Sriracha on banh mi is totally not cool? I didn't know that and yes, at a couple of places in the NYC area, sriracha is definitely present. But in all local versions, there's chilies, too – usually those fierce little bird chilies but Hanco's in Brooklyn does a fresh sliced jalapeno.

agree with the above comments on grinders -- you can get cold AND hot, at least you can in concord, ma where i grew up!

i always preferred the steak tip and peppers grinder (hot).

OMG

As soon as I saw the top picture I had to scroll to the italian beef & follow through to the flickr because I knew EXACTLY where the sandwich came from - and was totally right. I'm an IL native that's been in AR for 11 years, and only once in that time have I transported the bucket 'o beef, jus & buns back here to share the love with my friends. Damn you article, for making me want Portillo's like .. well, like something really necessary but not quite oxygen.

*drool*

I am a Philly Roast Pork Italian fan deluxe. Especially DiNic's and Tony Luke's. However, on a recent trip to New Orleans I sampled a Shrimp Po Boy at a little gem of a sandwich shop call Domilise's that came very close to dethroning those Brotherly Love treasures. Here's a peek:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/pauliegee/sets/72157606497780402/

Ciao,

Paulie Gee

@Just Nancy: Hey, I'm up for sriracha on almost anything. But it's weaksauce on bahn mi. AND it deprives you of the pleasure of hot hot hot hot quenched by nibbling on a more pate-and-veggie edge until you're again prepared to be possibly surprised.

I never really got into the italian beef when I went to school in Chicago. I guess I gravitated more towards hot dogs (R.I.P. Devil Dogs), gyros (yeeros)and stuffed pizza (Giordanos) those days. I always found it too soggy, even when dry. I think that's why I never get tomato in my subs or sandwiches unless the bread is thick and crusty. Now that I am in NY I tend to eat hoagies from the corner bodegas.

They're bombers in Buffalo, NY, and they're also called subs. Great thread...I know what I'm having for dinner tonight!
@ladymarmalade - thanks for not calling it beef on wick...ugh...that's a pet peeve of mine! lol

BTW, does anyone else feel like singing Adam Sandler's Lunchlady song after reading this? (while wiping the drool from my chin)

hoagies and grinders, hoagies and grinders!

I would like to second (fifth?) the comment(s) about grinders being hot or cold. I grew up in Connecticut, and not until my teenage years did I even realize other names existed for grinders. It's a pretty all-encompassing term.

now i'm ready to hop a flight back home to New Jersey and head into Edison to the Tastee sub shop for one of their amazing sandwiches!!!

Great post on a vital topic! All those photos above have my stomach growling with the memories of four years spent at the legendary Hoagie Haven in Princeton:

http://www.hoagiehaven.com/

I must have eaten at least 2 sandwiches a week from them. My meal of choice was the "pizza cheesesteak" - cheesesteak cooked flat, provolone cheese and tomato sauce. To that, I would add grilled onions, shredded iceberg lettuce and a little bit of ketchup for sweetness.

I wonder if my digestive track could still handle one of these?

Dressed poboys do not typically include mustard or onions. The lettuce must be shredded and in my opinion, soft butter on the bread prior to mayo. One famous bread producer is Leidenheimer bakery.

I'm 37, have lived my whole life in Connecticut, and am adding my support to the fact that grinders are available both hot and cold. You can get cold cold-cut grinders or hot grinders like chicken parm, meatball, or sausage and peppers. Cheese choices are either just provolone or provolone and American. Lettuce and tomato are usually options, as are oil and vinegar. Roasted peppers are pretty standard, too.

If you're ever in Seattle, don't miss out on Tubs Subs: http://www.tubssubs.com/

When in Philly Sarcone's is a must for hoagies, Tony Luke's for steaks, roast pork, broccoli rabe...everything else...I'm a hungry man far from home

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