Is it Rude to Eat on Mass Transit?
Chow asks whether it's considered rude to eat on public transit: "I don’t mind smelling a pungent curry in the right context, like an Indian restaurant, but not on my way home, mixing with other people’s body odor."
Granted, there are times when you gotta eat on the run. On the other hand, some people don't seem to know the meaning of "grabbing a bite to eat"—I was on the subway once and saw a guy carefully laying out three boxes of his Dominican takeout dinner on the seats next to him—napkin in lap and everything. Might've been tasty, but not a pleasant traveling experience for the rest of us there.
What's your take: do you mind seeing people chompin' down on a sandwich on the bus or a commuter train? Should a no-food rule be enforced?
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You're actually not allowed to eat on the DC Metro system.
GinaKina at 8:18PM on 07/20/08
You're not allowed to eat on the MTA either, but that doesn't stop people. I don't mind unobtrusive food - chips, small sandwiches, etc. It's a smell thing. If it smells really strongly, I don't like it, even if it smells good. Then I'm just jealous that someone else is eating and I'm not.
masha339 at 8:25PM on 07/20/08
I once witnessed a guy who splashed boiling hot coffee on the face of a woman next to him, when our train had to come to a screeching halt. Needless to say, I'm not an unbiased person when it comes to this question. However, I do feel that something that is "literally grab and gobble"......candy bar, piece of fruit, can or bottle of soda, cookies, etc. should be allowed.
Boscompb at 8:25PM on 07/20/08
While you are not allowed to eat, I made a few friends when there were terrific smells and I went over to ask what was being eaten - because it smelled so great. The one I will never forget is that a grandmother was there with her grand-daughter who was eating while being "escorted" to her job. The grand-daughter translated the recipe for me (curried lamb) as well as (blushing) told me that she was informed that she WOULD tell me she was single and give me her phone number. I gave her my card and proceeded to kiss the Grandmother and asked the young lady to thank her for me. I gave her my business card. She did call to say that I made an imperssion with the grandmother.....
exvaxman at 8:41PM on 07/20/08
I personally dont think its rude, I dont take it personal. But I do think its sad. When I see people eating on the train or in their cars, participating in the grub and go that modern life has imposed as an accepted habit, I cant but feel melancholy of days where that would've been looked upon as simply strange. Why would you eat on a train and not on a table at your house or a park even? Unless you dont have a home it might be justifiable, but because there isnt enough time? to eat? What?
To me nobody that eats within the mean time of their transportation journey seems to be at 100% ease. Maybe the Dominican guy does, who knows, I would've had to be there and see his composure to make the conclusion. Regardless, I think the question posed should be what happened that we ended up eating in our cars, trains, etc?
Let bring back the joys and pleasures of the table, even if we are so busy we think eating in the train is ok. Lets not participate in that madness. Lets be seriously happy eaters !
Buen provecho!
czeledon at 8:48PM on 07/20/08
Imo people who bring food on mass transit with any odor whatsoever are swine. What smells good to you may not smell good to the person next to you.
I had to sit next to a dude on a three hour flight who brought enough smelly chinese take out with him to feed his entire extended family, it was awful.
redfish at 8:50PM on 07/20/08
On the city bus - yes - I think it's rude to eat. You're not supposed to be people do it anyway.
The last thing I want to hear when I ride the bus is munching and crunching and slurping from some slob in the next seat.
One time I was riding the bus and some old guy with a big beard and a big backpack sat down near me. He got up to leave and a minute later I noticed a big pile of shredded chicken on the seat, crumbs, an empty bag on the floor next to what looked like - I swear - a slab of raw duck meat!
As I'm getting off at my stop, a lady made the comment to the bus driver, "man, looks like a vulture was eatin back there." It was actually funny.
paris221966 at 8:53PM on 07/20/08
i agree that it is sometimes rude to eat in public, especially when you have several containers worth of food and you are taking up seats on public transportation to prop up your food containers. however, i think that sometimes when people complain about public consumption, it is often directed at others who are eating "ethnic" food, such as indian, chinese, etc. i think if someone was eating a burger in a similar scenario, it would not illicit the same comments. i remember a girl in my middle school, who happened to be from japan, being subjected to rude comments because of how her lunch food smelled. unfortunately, some of that same attitude still prevails in the workplace today. i think that what is considered rude should depend more on the behavior of the person consuming the food (i.e., chomping away in inappropriate situations) than on what that person is consuming.
devaleena at 8:55PM on 07/20/08
It is not that I am really bothered by it but I just cannot even think to eat on the subways because as id eat id picture every germ imaginable going into mouth with that food. Needless to say, that is what i envision when watching and smelling the person with the tuna sandwich!
JacquelineS at 9:00PM on 07/20/08
On the Tube in London their are/ were posters suggesting "Please Do Not Eat Smelly Food". Apparently they offended some Italian Ambassador and were taken down. Personally I thought it would have been more of a dig toward the Pakistani populace and strong curries but nope. . .
grindhaus at 9:01PM on 07/20/08
Very few people object to the smell of their own farts, of course people object more to the smell of food that in unfamiliar to them, which is why you should not bring food with a noticeable odor, or break wind, on mass transit.
I wouldn't bring a cheeseburger on a bus/metro/plane, who knows maybe I will be sitting next to a vegan.
redfish at 9:06PM on 07/20/08
I am obviously different - if there is something I do not understand, I'll ask. I will say that I am not complaining, just wondering what is being eaten because I do not recognize the smell. The absolute worst smell I ever dealt with was goat - but it did taste great when I was offered a sample. The problem was finding goat to replicate the recipe (Don't ask). Sorry - I just enjoy discovering things.
exvaxman at 9:16PM on 07/20/08
wow, i would not compare the smell of farts to food from various parts of the world. one can imagine that cheeseburgers would start a thread such as this but it is usually the curry, the arroz con pollo, etc.
devaleena at 9:33PM on 07/20/08
I don't think I'd care. There's enough other things to worry about, I might find it slightly annoying or something but I doubt it would really bother me.
What did used to drive me nuts was in school. There was a class I took a few years ago, one of my classmates ate a full meal every other class. It was crazy. I mean have some snacks or a soda or whatever but she would come to class with containers full Mexican takeout. Totally distracting.
TastyNewEngland at 9:38PM on 07/20/08
People who eat on the subways are disgusting.
If you are one of these people, take a deep long look at your life.
wthrop at 9:40PM on 07/20/08
I didn't mind it so much when it was the occasional sandwich or candy bar but somewhere in the last couple of years people have crossed the line. Curries, barbecue and noodles galore and the only thing more disgusting than the smell intermingling with the usual transit odors is having to hear the diner slurping down their meal (is it any surprise that mobile diners have all the grace and table manners of pigs?). It's not just rude, it's disgusting.
dantsea at 9:41PM on 07/20/08
Food smells are the least of my worry on the subway - better the grossest, weirdest, Limburger-egg-sausage sandwich smell than the suffocating poisonous-smelling cologne worn prodigiously by so many men. (Women sometimes over-perfume too, but for whatever it's almost always men I end up sitting/standing next to with the over-fragranced problem.)
Eating on the subway seems inconsiderate to me because you might make a mess, take up more than your fair amount of space if it's crowded, or spill on someone next to you (I've been the victim of this a couple of times), but not really because of the smell.
Personally, I don't like eating on the run, and can't stand the idea of eating in the germ-infested subway, but it's more about the mess and the space than anything else. There are far worse smells in my day-to-day NYC life.
producestories at 9:41PM on 07/20/08
@redfish-nevermind eating big sloppy meals on mass transit; do you alter your eating habits because someone near you is vegan? Come on, it's not like smoking around a baby!
sailordave at 9:52PM on 07/20/08
Do you eat on airplanes?
srhcb at 10:00PM on 07/20/08
Re altering eating habits because someone near me is vegan, it depends, did the vegan invite me out to dinner? Did I invite her?
In the mass transit situation, the person sitting next to you is your uninvited dinner companion ... he/she was not offered and did not accept an invitation to dine with you ... yet you are forcing him/her to dine with you ... I would call it culinary rape except that is obviously hyperbole (on second thought I think I will call it that).
I paid good money for my ticket, why am I being forced to dine with this person against my will? It is an outrage ... the next time it happens I will file a class action against the carrier.
redfish at 10:01PM on 07/20/08
In San Francisco, it's against the rules to eat or drink, but that stops no one. In fact, drinking your morning latte has become de rigeur. I've had coffee spilled on me twice.
I think it's rude to eat or drink on public transit, and I think it's even more rude to do so when rules are posted clearly prohibiting it. --Of course, I also think it's rude to bury your nose in your hand-held device, zone out on your IPod, or yak on your cell phone to the exclusion of your fellow riders. That's another rant, however.
ProgressiveWench at 10:06PM on 07/20/08
@exvaxman: Did you ever go out on a date with the curried-lamb grand-daughter?
Adam Kuban at 10:16PM on 07/20/08
@redfish-doesn't matter. if vegans want to have their dietary choices respected they must also respect the diets of others. if you're out to dinner with a militant uppity holy vegan who gets all offended at people eating meat, etc., why would you be out to dinner with this person in the first place?
@P-wench--what about somebody involved deeply w/their ipod/phone is rude to you? (as long as they're not actually on the phone.)
sailordave at 10:35PM on 07/20/08
I eat on the subway. Not takeout, but in Montreal the subway station I use has a cafe in it, and sometimes I buy a coffee and a pastry and have them in the train. Mostly I have the coffee. I have an hour-long commute and my job starts really early and sometimes I just don't take the time to eat before I leave. I only actually eat if I am sitting down, and I don't have anything that smells or is messy. Is that rude? Perhaps to some people but I really don't think I am bothering anyone and I don't care. I've never seen anyone eat full meals though.
booplusboo at 11:02PM on 07/20/08
"if you're out to dinner with a militant uppity holy vegan who gets all offended at people eating meat, etc., why would you be out to dinner with this person in the first place?"
Because the person will provide me with sexual gratification?
redfish at 11:10PM on 07/20/08
I can think of a slew of reasons why one should not eat on mass transit. Yet having had the supreme displeasure of riding buses and subways with people indulging in all manner of personal ablutions, I will tell you this: sitting next to someone tucking into a dripping, aromatic lap lunch is nowhere nearly as distressing as riding with a man slowly clipping each of his fingernails, or a woman applying a fresh layer of nail polish.
baboo at 11:18PM on 07/20/08
Is it rude to eat something within the vicinity of people that will definitely smell the smells of what you are eating? I love tuna, i even love a good fast food burger + fries once in a while, but when I get off the train and my fracking coat smells like an acrid, unwashed McDonalds' fry bin, yes it's rude. And disgusting by the way. Turkey sandwich? OK. Bag of chips? Pastry? Sure. Hot foods or otherwise smelly cold foods? You're a jerk. I kind of want to just go up to someone and say, so, you brought enough for the whole train right? And then yank a fry.
zackola at 11:19PM on 07/20/08
Sorry, I've got to come down hard on anyone who eats in close public quarters not meant for eating — and it doesn't matter what it is. If I'm not in a restaurant and I can smell your food, it's nauseating. Buses, trains, airplanes, doesn't matter. It's absolutely awful!
gfroerer at 11:19PM on 07/20/08
I don't mind people eating on the train, but they always seem to do it with something that smells good at just the time I'm most hungry. When it comes to myself, if I have to eat on the train, I usually limit it to something like a bagel. I would gladly give seats (even extra seats) to all the banquet-eaters the train could handle if only all the NAIL-CLIPPERS would go away. THAT is truly disgusting.
Adam Kuban at 11:21PM on 07/20/08
I hate it when people eat in their cars while I'm a passenger, let alone public transit. No one eats in my car. The smell of food when it's not at the appropriate place is quite disgusting.
Public transportation places are frigging filthy. I can't imagine eating anything in a public bathroom. Same difference. You don't know if anyone's not washed their hands after doing who knows what or if they have an infection of some kind.
The smell of other people's food is disgusting in closed spaces. I had to smell a family's god awful fried chicken from KFC for 5-6 hours in a flight. It has the same effect as smelling vomit.
After people eat, do they ever clean up properly? Not likely. They'll leave some residue of some kind, whether it's greasy fingers, the smell, actual food particles, or the food containers.
Eating and drinking ANYTHING in a public transportation setting shouldn't be tolerated.
Cassaendra at 11:57PM on 07/20/08
How is this even a question?
bpitman at 11:58PM on 07/20/08
@redfish--insert clever quip i.e. vegans/oral sex here.
sailordave at 11:59PM on 07/20/08
Eating while on public transportation is incredibly unsanitary for the person eating and everyone around them. I cringe to think of my food coming in contact with all of that germ-ridden air. And my hands touching my food and then my mouth after touching the handrails and seats, even with hand sanitizer. And no, I wouldn't want to smell anyone else's food either.
Now, the PDA/phone thing confuses me... so would it also be rude to read a magazine "to the exclusion of your fellow riders"? Or a book?
buffy at 1:07AM on 07/21/08
Wow now I feel really bad about bringing my half-slice of Artichoke on the L late last night. (p.s. They raised their prices!!)
Jenn Sit at 1:08AM on 07/21/08
Personally, I don't eat food in public. I don't like people staring at me and when I'm eating ...I like to be sitting in some comfortable, so charming, wonderful chair ...listen to good music and enjoy great wine ...and most important of all ...surrounded by my family. On the other hand, considering your question ...I just think ...PLEASE! ...If some people are able to enjoy food during transportation w other people around ...don't stop the fun! Let them eat all they can and enjoy life!! It is true that sometimes some food can be "smelly" (some "fonda food" can be very overwhelming) ...but many other times ...by watching others eat in public ...it gives me great ideas to make when I arrive home and search the fridge for something really GOOD! It is there I start dreaming about great food!!!
cocobypr at 2:18AM on 07/21/08
The New York City subway is pretty gross to begin with, but sometimes a person is in a rush so what can you do? And how do you feel when I've got a bag of takeout food, including a container of fragrant curry? Am I supposed to take a cab because I'm carrying a few groceries?
Also, I wonder what any of these people would feel about taking a train for any distance over a hundred miles sixty years ago, when it was considered "de rigeur" to carry a box lunch if there was no diner on the train, or you couldn't afford to eat in it.
Also, I'm a graduate student and most of my classes begin at 6 in the evening, which for most people allows them just enough time to get to school after a full day at work. All the profs allow and even encourage us to eat and drink in class--they know we'll fall asleep or pass out from hunger if we don't!
annien at 3:16AM on 07/21/08
I don't mind, as long as it's something that can be eaten neatly while in motion. Ideally, it requires only one hand, doesn't spill, stain or burn, and doesn't smell too strongly (I'm referring to the intensity/spread of the odour, not the type - I don't care if you eat curry or a hamburger, as long as the smell stays within 3 feet of you).
Planes are in a category unto themselves. They normally serve, or at least sell, food on the plane, which means you'll be subjected to food smells and messes anyway. So go ahead, bring that slice of pizza in your carry-on. Just keep in mind some foods are generally less appreciated, scent-wise: fish and eggs come to mind.
piccola at 7:08AM on 07/21/08
@redfish + @sailordave: any way to keep the vague sexism/sexual objectification to a minimum? On that note: "culinary rape" - this is neither an appropriate nor acceptable analogy. Period. This is a mutually respectful community - please think of others.
producestories at 8:05AM on 07/21/08
Should it be illegal? I'd say no--it would be hypocritical of me to come out in favor of an outright ban, given that at times when my blood sugar has been low, walking about, I have eaten a cookie or piece of fruit.
Rude--yesI Forget so-called ethnic food, NOTHING smells as horrid as that vague and diffuse 'McDonald's' odor of grease, plastic, and cardboard.
I agree with the sanitation issue as well, of course--I don't see how it could be physically pleasurable to devour good take-out in a smelly car, with unwashed hands.
However, there is another issue not as applicable to strong cologne--I know some people are quite affected by cologne, but it appears that food allergies, even contact allergies, can be more severe--what if someone eats a Peanut Butter Cliff Bar next to an allergic kid at very close quarters? I guess the argument could be made that going into a subway like a restaurant, you assume some risk but generally people are more prepared to protect themselves in spaces designed for eating.
HeartofGlass at 8:11AM on 07/21/08
Hahahah. I remember the time I went to White Castle and picked up two Crave Cases for a party I was going to. I don't think the people on the train appreciated it that much.
Adam Kuban at 8:13AM on 07/21/08
THANK YOU, HeartofGlass, for mentioning food allergies. I am severely allergic to peanuts and it always makes me very nervous on public transportation/airplanes. What if someone is eating peanuts and then touches a pole which I then later touch? I've had to go to the hospital in similar situations before. I have had to move my seat or ask people to put away their snacks on the train before. It is a very uncomfortable and potentially dangerous situation.
Vegetarianka at 9:05AM on 07/21/08
I'd rather they eat than paint their nails, which is what some woman did sitting next to me just ast week.
Erin at 9:21AM on 07/21/08
i've done it a couple of times in the past, but i don't do it anymore. even a bagel with cream cheese is too messy for the subway, even if it doesn't smell too offensive. i am OK with small bites (chips, nuts, other snack-like foods) but i really can't stand when i see people eating a full-blown take-out box of chicken & rice. can't you wait another 30 minutes to get home? i personally don't care much for people carrying to-go food that smells, even if they plan to eat it later, not in public. once i had some dumplings i was taking home and i was pretty embarrassed by how much they smelled, even if they smelled good!
j at 9:37AM on 07/21/08
I'd rather that people not eat on the subway, but I recognize that for some people, it's the only time they have to eat, or that they must eat at that moment.
What grinds my gears is seeing people toss their chicken bones or sunflower seed shells to the subway floor. (And what grinds my gears even more is when people cut their toenails on the subway!)
LadyMarmalade at 9:43AM on 07/21/08
I don't care what people's circumstances are, it's rude, pure and simple. Eat before or after. (I'm looking at you, pregnant woman with the very smelly tuna sandwich who told me she had to eat because she was pregnant. I asked her if she knew she was pregnant before getting on the bus and, if so, why didn't she eat then?)
Barbara Hanson at 9:43AM on 07/21/08
And then there's the issue of the eater/commuter who does not clean up after himself (or herself). A glob of sauce left behind on the seat or a layer of crumbs winds up on someone's rear end when they sit in or around the seat where someone's just set up a buffet. The alternative: you notice the powdered donut snow on the seat, it's the only seat, you have nothing to wipe it off with and what, use your hand to swipe the stuff off? Ugh.
holdthemayo at 10:03AM on 07/21/08
producestories' comment "please think of others" while referring to language/content is entirely relevant to the whole thread. I refrain from eating on public transport because I understand that other people may not appreciate me using public space in that way. I do this for the same reasons that I am quiet in libraries...I can only expect from others that respect which I myself show.
Rousseau had some ideas that people who *do* eat on public transport might want to think about.
AliceBlue at 10:23AM on 07/21/08
More than a rude or not rude, allowed or not allowed - it grosses me out to see people eating on the NYC subways. And I'm not a germ-a-phobe by any means. I'm ok if someone I know is clipping their nails behind me at the office but it grosses me out on the subway. Same kind of thing.
pickle at 10:40AM on 07/21/08
holdthemayo--you're right about the 'garbage' aspect, and not just with messy garbage--if people didn't eat on the subway who had a home or office where they could eat their food (er...finger clippings aside) I think about 1/2 of the trash lying about would be eliminated.
HeartofGlass at 10:48AM on 07/21/08
I was on a plane with a family eating bologna sandwiches at 5:00am. Gross.
Kerosena at 10:57AM on 07/21/08
@Barbara Hansen: I suppose it would have been much pleasanter for you if the poor lady had fainted, or had vomited convulsively all over your non-pregnant body; either can happen when a pregnant woman is deprived of food. I can't believe you actually called her on it, either. I bet the people you were with were cringing with embarassment for you. And by the way, were you sitting, and she standing, while this went on?
annien at 11:38AM on 07/21/08
I think it's disgusting.
It's usually only the ghettopotami that do it. On weekends you are ASSURED of wading through masticated chicken bones on the 2 and the 3.
faber at 11:48AM on 07/21/08
I've definitely been made ill by the smells of things people have been eating on buses and/or trains. If you MUST eat, please don't get the greasiest, smelliest food you can find - no one should be subjected to that!
embolini9 at 11:56AM on 07/21/08
I also get disgusted by not just the eating, how some people eat. If you must eat your food in an inappropriate place, at least be discreet about it. Don't smack, chew loudly and slurp. Those sounds disgust me.
souldawg at 1:02PM on 07/21/08
I don't mind people eating a sandwich or a bagel. I've done it. I felt uncomfortable and rude admittedly but I was so hungry and had no time, I just had to. Once, I bought some chicken and rice from a halal truck and ate it on the subway platform while waiting for the train, but refrained from eating it on the train... even though it was killing me. Again, I was starving and it was so tasty. But I felt like that would be too much and everyone would hate me. People need to know where to draw the line.
LHSK12 at 1:12PM on 07/21/08
i've most definitely brought food to eat on the plane, but that's because i refuse to eat the overpriced junk food they have in airports or on the planes
sweetpotato at 1:14PM on 07/21/08
Lots of good points made-for both sides. I have to admit. I can see both sides of this question. I think I look at things differently...
I work and go to school-full time on both. Here's what I think many people are forgetting...if you are in meetings all afternoon-you can't eat, you leave work-you can't eat while driving (can get a ticket) or in this case riding a bus, you get to class-professor states can't eat in class....Well, then when am I supposed to eat?? The best place in this scenario is on mass transit. Or say someone is hopping from job interview to interview or meeting to meeting on transit (meeting clients perhaps)-and you can't eat where you are because you need to make an impression. I bet if you ask the people who are eating on mass transit if they would rather sit at a desk/table to eat or where they are-I'm guessing they'd say somewhere else with someone else. I would think eating on a bus is last resort.
That said, what would bother me (and has in the past when I rode the bus-I drive now) are lack of manners-this is what I find rude, not the eating part. If you eat something on the bus, clean it up. Also, keep in mind where you are placing your food-it should not take up the seat(s) next to you. I understand you need to eat, but don't make others stand because you think the bench is a table for your 7 course meal. I think if people didn't take things to the outer limits, this would not be a conversation piece.
So-for my personal opinion...I used to ride the bus-I did not eat while on there, ever. For me, I couldn't do it-and it had nothing to do with other people. I couldn't because all that I would think about was all the germs that go on in there. NO THANK YOU. I would drink water and have a granola bar (or something along those lines) at the bus stop to hold me over. Then either eat in the car or class. I've been lucky where my professors were/are cool and just say eating is fine just please don't eat so and so (usually because they would want it).
Ok-that's enough from me...Sorry about the length, guess I had a lot to say.
Butrflygirly at 1:30PM on 07/21/08
I can't believe how intolerant people are (and @faber, you're a racist!) Butrflygirly made all the points for both sides, and it seems to come down to: if you have to eat on public transport, you should be able to, but if you have a choice, don't.
Why are we all so sensitive to eating noises and smells? Are we not foodies? As a bodily function, eating is one of the least disagreeable to witness, but it still involves noises, chewing, slurping, whatever.
What, do you always sit like a little princess and sip tea daintily from a porcelain cup? In a world (not to mention a city, NYC) where barbecue has become so popular, tell me you're always Miss Manners when you eat. Wherever you eat.
annien at 1:42PM on 07/21/08
@annien: Right on!
@producestories: You get a "Right on!" too.
Wally East at 2:27PM on 07/21/08
I'm not so worried about the smell, but I am worried about the potential for spilling on another passenger or leaving a mess behind. I think those are the two reasons eating (and drinking from an open container like a can or coffee cup) is banned on NYC mass transit, and I'm behind that 100%.
(Not that I don't occasionally sneak a Saturday morning coffee onto the subway when I'm headed down to the Greenmarket - but I would never feel comfortable doing it on a crowded train, since I'm such a klutz.)
MegB at 2:29PM on 07/21/08
CalTrans recently said they spend millions of dollars a year on spill/food cleanups on the trains.
I consider it rude to eat anything messy on public transit. I suffer guilt even when I bring on a bottle of water and a granola bar. I do my damndest not to even drop crumbs.
starbreiz at 3:19PM on 07/21/08
"I would call it culinary rape..."
"It is an outrage ... the next time it happens I will file a class action...."
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Wow. That seems a bit heavy.
What about people who fart on the subway? You going to sue for that too?
FastFoodCritic at 3:21PM on 07/21/08
@annien: Please. She was sitting next to me, and was disdainful and rude. And when she got off bus, everyone was relieved. And, by the way, when she got off the bus, she walked into the park and sat on a bench with some friends. She couldn't have waited five minutes to eat in the open air?
Barbara Hanson at 4:02PM on 07/21/08
I'd be curious to know how many of the people who've already commented use transit on a daily basis. I do.
dantsea at 4:10PM on 07/21/08
Okay, i sounds like this particular lady was one you shouldn't have tangled with. But I still defend the rule.
annien at 4:10PM on 07/21/08
@dantsea: Not daily, as I work at home, but I do at least several times a week, particularly in this weather! And I am never guilty of ingesting anything more than a swig of water.
@annine: Thanks. And that was *no* lady...
Barbara Hanson at 4:35PM on 07/21/08
This whole debate seems somewhat patronizing?
If you don't like the experience of "mass transportation" why not buy yourself a SUV to get around in?
srhcb at 4:57PM on 07/21/08
@annien: Thanks for the props! I feel as you do (maybe since we are both Grad students currently?) and say it should be ok, but if avoidable then please do.
@dantsea: I used to ride mass transit everyday, AT LEAST twice a day. So, I've been there. I did that as long as I could (it's cheaper and easier on the environment) but had to stop. I find rude behavior (sitting while elderly stand, leaving trash behind, etc) more repulsive than people eating. I realize I am not the only person on the bus and have to be respectful of other passengers.
Butrflygirly at 5:00PM on 07/21/08
I take the subway every day, and have no problem with a cup of coffee or a bag of chips around me. I do on RARE occation when in a rush (though never when the train is crowded) eat a sandwich. The foods that annoy me when other people eat them are hot foods (they smell more than cold), anything the requires a fork and knife (more chance of leaving a mess), and thingd like sunflower seeds (for some reason people think they can fling the shells and leftover bits on the floor.
When it comes to air travel, there's one airline that insists, for their vegetarian breakfast meal, to serve curry. I'm a vegetarian, and can't stand most curry. I feel awful when everyone turns to look at me to figure out who brought the stinky food. I don't know too many people who would want to be around curry at 8am, and hate to be the source of it!
nalega at 5:25PM on 07/21/08
wow i've never seen so many people be "DISGUSTED" and "REVOLTED" by food before! i agree with annien and butrflygirly -- try to be discreet, make sure you clean up after yourself, have some common sense. but if i'm getting on the subway for 1 1/2 hours (which i did round trip every day through college) and i have to RUN to get the subway, yes, i will drink my iced coffee on the train. i'm not waiting another 20 minutes for one to arrive, i find that ridiculous.
megannesta at 5:37PM on 07/21/08
Drinking coffee or tea... no. Eating (sorry)... yes. And it's unsanitary, too.
Brownie at 6:20PM on 07/21/08
I'm in Chicago and we're not supposed to eat on the buses or trains. One day I was riding the bus home with a vicious migraine - one that was making me feel nauseated. One of the passengers on my bus was another driver eating a smelly pile of gyros and onions. I wanted to barf right on top of him.
I'm also sure that the messy eaters are why I sometimes see roaches on the trains and buses. Gross!
No food, at any time, on public transit.
disbelief11 at 12:18AM on 07/22/08
My mother drummed into me that it is not polite to eat if front of people unless there is enough to go around. It stuck, which is why I have to offer complete strangers tic tacs and gum (which seems to always be appreciated, but not always accepted).
You expect people to eat on planes, and personally, I would rather smell curries than airline swill any day of the week.
dawnie2u at 8:08AM on 07/22/08
It's bad manners and just plain inconsiderate. The crumbs and garbage left behind attracts bugs and germs. I'd like to see a crack-down by issuing fines to those guilty of this infraction.
SavtaShayna at 10:37AM on 07/22/08
I think this brings up a bigger issue - in our always-on-the-go lives, we find ourselves sharing more of what would once have been private (phone calls, meals, etc) in public spaces. That being the case, I think we need to adjust.
Not to sound like Emily Post, but I think a little bit of consideration goes a long way. So, if I grab a curry a few stops from home, I'll wait until I get home to open the boxes, knowing that some of the scent is already leaking. If I do need to actually consume something on the train (and yes, this goes for airplanes too) I'll grab something not too smell: a sandwich (hold the onions), fruit, energy bar, cut up veggies, etc.
LizNYC at 11:08AM on 07/22/08