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A Lesson for Omnivores: Vegetarian Myths, Debunked

"I may be a vegetarian, but I still love the smell of bacon," says Taylor Clarke in his hilarious piece on Slate in which he debunks myths about vegetarians. While it's worth reading the entire article, here are some of the main points in handy list form:

  • They know meat tastes good.
  • They don't automatically love tofu; it depends how well it's prepared.
  • Most of them aren't salad freaks.
  • They don't expect friends to bend over backwards to prepare vegetarian food for them at dinner parties/barbecues.
  • They are not silently judging their meat-eating friends.
  • Yes, they do enjoy food.

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23 Comments:

I disagree. My experience is that vegetarians do expect meatless options at dinner parties/BBQ's.

Oh, I think he meant that he didn't expect friends to spend, say, 3 extra hours preparing a delicious meatless option. Perhaps there would just already be something meatless, which would make for a more balanced meal? :)

Hmm, I think the relevance of this article is a few years late. Are there really people out there, still, this concerned with what others eat? I mean, I know there are but it's not as wide-spread as Mr. Clarke makes it out to be. I'm a meat-eater and I don't spend my whole meal focusing on why my vegetarian friends/family won't eat meat, if they smoke pot, wear leather shoes, etc. I could care less, let's just enjoy the food and get on with it. I think Taylor Clarke still has a chip on his shoulder over a scholarship he probably didn't deserve in the first place.

"but unless we're talking about the kind of salmon that comes freshly plucked from the vine, this makes you an omnivore."

That made me crack up...I liked the part about not eating anything that used to have eyeballs. It boggles the mind that some people somehow don't think chicken or fish are "meat."

I have to say that I really don't expect people to cook especially for me at parties. I always pack snacks in case there's really nothing for me to eat, but most of the time there's salsa, or salad, or a baked potato to keep me from starving.

I am, however, really touched when there are vegetarian options. I went to a cinco de mayo party where there were vegetarian refried beans and Boca crumbles for the tacos - I thought it was awesome beyond awesome that vegetarian guests were remembered.

I also went to a grilling party where someone made me my own vegetable kabob. I was really touched and thankful.

earlybirdkate - You are obviously enlightened. You won't believe the comments I've gotten when other people saw me with a meat-free plate. Without bringing my diet up at all, I've apparently opened myself to some pretty rude comments.

Is it still relevant? Yes! I just had a conversation with someone asking about my vegetarian ways last week. The topic seems to come up often when meeting new people and this article exactly hits all the questions I get asked and all my usual responses. Of course I know bacon tastes good! Yes, sometimes I miss it. But no, I'm not going to cave just for a piece of bacon.

I think a related myth is that all us vegetarians like to eat is frightening health food, like lentil "meatloaf" or soy-cheese sandwiches. I'm working hard to dispell this myth over at Herbivoracious.com. Vegetarian food can be just as beautiful, delicious, satisfyingly healthy or pleasingly unhealthy as the formerly-walking/flying/swimming varieties.

This is awesome, thanks very much! This is still relevant. I was served chicken just a year ago as the vegetarian option!! So many things about this article just hit the nail on the head! A lot of restaurants are very accommodating, but I'm a bit tired of polenta too. Its an awful lot better than soggy pasta and tomato sauce as the option instead of a juicy expensive steak!!

I usually bring something big to a bbq like an enormous dinner salad with lots of beans in that can easily serve as a meal, then no-one feels bad if there isnt much veggie stuff.

Poppycock, he makes it seem like he can speak for the world's vegetarians, but there are so many types who are vegetarian for so many reasons. On a recent flight on Korean Air I noticed they have 5 types of Vegetarian Meals: http://www.koreanair.com/local/na/gd/eng/cs/sn/eng_cs_sn_sm.htm and none of those are the "fish eating vegetarians" or "chicken eating vegetarians" that we've heard of. So I will continue to assume that all vegetarians are secretly judging me...

Great article! Thanks for sharing.

There is so much incredible veggie food out there it just amazes me that people are so tied to meat. If it doesn't have meat in it somehow it's just not considered or written off as just a side. I know as that used to be me. I've discovered so much since shunning the flesh. Incredible foods that make me wish I'd done this years sooner.

Here's the other stunner: anyone can eat vegan food. One doesn't have to be vegan to do it. Peanut Butter & Jelly sandwich is vegan. Hummus, Falafel, so much more and lots can be made vegan including Mac & "Cheese." For Cinco de Mayo I had Black bean cakes with tomatillo salsa, guacamole, lime, tomato slices and diced red bell pepper & onion topping. It was incredible with the bonus being rather healthy.

The article talks about plain tofu but part of why I made the jump was realizing I wouldn't eat the chicken thighs I was preparing without all the spices I was adding and that maybe the meat was getting used as a reason to have the flavors of the spices. Meat really is just a lump without all the special treatments. Who hasn't had some awful meat? Who hasn't had mediocre meat day in and day out? Why? I mean really, bologna? What is it that people say when something is full of it?

What cracks me up is how so many people get so defensive and put off just by my existence. Why? Is it really me and my choices? If I can "make" them so fidgety with what I choose not to eat then why is it impossible to understand why what they choose could bug me?

Maybe the reason so few seem to know any vegetarians is those who aren't are just so unpleasant about it.

However, some other myths? I don't like tofu (or most soy and/or meat substitutes), nor do I like mushrooms or cilantro. Turns out there's protein in most food and really it's about amino acids that we form into protein since our digestive system has to break protein down and apart into those amino acids.

And I too have had people share recipes with the disclaimer that vegetarians can just use "shrimp" instead of whatever meat is called for. Um... even back when, I hated shrimp. That hasn't changed either. :)

I've been vegetarian for over half my life - since age 13. My own parents, who you'd think would be used to it, having had fifteen years to adjust, still make comments about my diet every time I come home to visit. So unfortunately, Taylor Clarke's article is still relevant for many people. (And his story reminds me of the Rotary Club scholarship I was up for in my cattle-ranch-heavy rural California hometown, which I never expected and didn't receive - at the scholarship finalists' dinner, the only thing I could eat was the dinner roll and a dreary iceberg-lettuce salad, ordered without the bacon, please).

I don't like mushrooms or cilantro either, Sieseye!

As an avowed omnivore, I often- more often than not- prepare meatless food, which is often even vegan. This is not intentional; it just so happens that there is a lot more non-meat food in the world than meat-based food. And for dinner parties and the like, it's often a lot cheaper to prepare meatless food or dishes in which animal products are only in a sauce or condiment of some sort, and how hard is it to make two versions of a sauce?
That said, the trickiest part of totally veggie cooking for me are seasonings- like bonito flakes, oyster sauce, fish sauce. I have yet to find really good vegan alternatives for these flavors.

I've been a vegetarian for 9 years (ok, so for 3 of those I was one of those terrible, awful, hypocritical fish-eating "vegetarians") and I found this article both enjoyable and relevant. I agree with nearly everything Taylor Clarke said. I'm not judging anyone for eating meat any more than I judge anyone for their religion; it's a personal choice and I don't think beliefs should be forced on anyone. I'm not easily grossed out and I don't care if you are eating meat next to me, or even if my veggie burger was cooked on the same grill as your hamburger. I do like the smell of bacon but meat doesn't even seem like a foodstuff anymore. You might as well say, here, eat this plastic bag! I like tofu and I agree with Sieseye about both tofu and meat being vehicles for spices and flavor.

I have not had too many problems with a lack of vegetarian options, though I am a little tired of the ever-present veggie burger, pasta, and overcooked vegetables. I went to a barbeque restaurant and eat the sides. My friends make vegetarian food at parties because they are nice people and they like it too. If they didn't want to make it, that would be fine with me too. Having been in college and/or NYC for the past 6 years, I don't often come against anti-vegetarianism anymore, but it's still there. Every time I see my grandfather he asks what I eat. "No turkey?? But it's Thanksgiving!"

I do get upset watching Top Chef: they put so much emphasis on animal protein-based dishes. Mark was kicked off last week for a vegetable curry, and during the zoo challenge, the Gorilla team used meat in 2/3 dishes (I think) and no one really called them out on it. It seems like fine dining is adapting more slowly to vegetarianism. Applebee's and Friday's have had veggie burgers for decades now! It's a shame because I think vegetarian cooking does encourage a chef to be more creative with tastes and textures. It's so easy to just fall back on what you know with meat.

My secret goal is to trick vegetarians into eating meat without knowing it. So I guess vegetarians should probably never eat anything that I make, just in case I stuck some meat in.

Wow wumami, that's some serious passive-aggressiveness that's actually downright abusive and shows a need to have control over others. It's not just disrespectful but tells people you aren't someone to trust at all.

There are better goals to have in life.

I've been vegetarian since I was 2. I got violently ill and ended up in the hospital with dehydration 3 times. The first time, my parents thought they had undercooked something and gave me food poisoning. After the third time, they told me I didn't have to eat anything I didn't want to. I haven't purposefully had meat since then. I'm not vegan...I would die without butter and cheese. When my husband and I were dating, he and one of my friends slipped a small piece of chicken into something I was eating when I was out of the room. I immedietely got sick. Yeah, I still married him. I hate that people willfully try to sneak meat into my food. I respect your decison to eat meat. It shouldn't be that hard for you to respect my decision not to.

Touché! I guess I never realized that people waste so much time caring about what other people eat. I still think Clarke is a little on the bitter side, though. It seems as though he's generalizing non-vegetarians but I suppose he's trying to make a point.

Excellent article and, as someone who has never eaten meat, I agree with pretty much everything in it except that I don't know bacon tastes good, only that it smells good. I love the closing paragraph too. Classic.

Hopefully the couple of *sshole comments that were made on this thread were in jest. If not, they go a long way in proving his point (if wunami is serious he/she must be absolutely insufferable as I can only imagine the other ways that selfishness and spite could manifest itself).

I don't eat beef, lamb or pork but I do eat chicken, turkey and fish. I have my own reasons for my eating choices and I never expect anyone to understand them nor do I ever judge anyone else for eating those animals. My immediate family took some time to "get it" but when I visit they always have a chicken or fish option which I appreciate. I am also appreciative when others make an effort to do the same but I would never expect anyone to go out of their way and am happy to eat sides when the main course doesn't appeal. What I'm trying to say is that no matter what anyone chooses to eat, a mutual respect is always the best way to go.

sloppy, unfortunately the *sshole comments are not abnormal. This is actually a very civilized discussion here with a lot of respect.

And Gordon Ramsey is well known for his disdain of vegetarians (as is Bourdain) and has taken great pleasure in tricking vegetarians into consuming animal products. What I don't get is he donates money for the domestic abuse as his mother was battered but doesn't understand how disrespectful, controlling, deceptive and abusive his own actions are.

But GR is hardly the only one. There's tales all over the net of meat eaters taking glee over having put one over on vegetarians. And then there are the ones who write into advice columns for help on how to turn their girlfriends to meat and ideas on how to sneak meat in so she'll find out how much she really does like it.

Other advice column questions regard how selfish brides are who would even consider not serving meat for their guests and the evil vegan bosses who will be throwing an office party that won't have meat in the spread which can possibly be anything but a nightmare and are they still obligated to go...?

Heck, there was even the Miss Manners question from the couple who were so upset to find out via the church gossip the couple whose company they so enjoyed a few weeks prior were ::whisper, whisper:: VEGANS! Which meant they'd been tricked into eating vegan cake and they don't like soy!

As Wunami's comment clearly illustrates, yes, this topic is still VERY relevant.

I'm an omnivore (tried the veggie thing for awhile - it didn't work out), and there are an unbelievable amount of meat eaters out there who think that the mere existence of vegetarianism as some sort personal affront to their way of life. It's annoying as all hell. There are meat-eaters who are fine with vegetarians and vice versa. The more middle ground there is, the more we can get rid of the assholes on the extreme ends of both groups.

As many know, it's not that meat doesn't taste good, it's that it's FLESH. Some people are not into eating FLESH, considering it a revolting practice. Human flesh is supposedly divine when it's roasted up, why aren't we eating that? It's just exactly the same thing. Tastebuds are very easily entertained by flavor - all junk food being a case in point. And how then, can vegetarians not judge meat-eaters? Respect and unconditional love over-rides judgement among the educated.

What a great article. Thanks so much for posting this. I've been a vegetarian for most of my adult life. The aggressive distain of some meat-eaters frustrates and saddens me, but no more so than the presumption of moral superiority of some vegetarians. I'm with you, fascfoo.

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