Alton Brown on 'The Next Iron Chef'
The folks at the Food Network arranged a zillion drive-by phone interviews Wednesday for Alton Brown, the host of The Next Iron Chef, a show premiering next Sunday, October 7, at 9 p.m. ET. The Next Iron Chef has eight first-class chefs competing to join the ranks of permanent Iron Chefs Bobby Flay, Mario Batali, Cat Cora, and Masaharu Morimoto. From the promos it looks more like Top Chef and less like Iron Chef. There are challenges and curves thrown at the competitors, and they are judged, of course, by how they respond.
We here at Serious Eats think that Alton Brown is smart and funny, knows and loves food, and, unlike many television personalities, actually has the ability to laugh at himself. A better combination of qualities for a food show host would be hard to find. There's another reason we like Brown. He likes Serious Eats a lot, says he trusts (even relies on) what he sees on it, and logs on daily when he's not on the road. We like him, he likes us, it's a beautiful thing.
So we decided to take the opportunity to do one of these drive-by interviews knowing it's hard to have a real substantive conversation in the alloted time. But Alton, not surprisingly, gets right to the point and is a master of the sound bite. He also promised to sit down with us later on for a longer, more serious Serious Eats interview.
So without further ado, the Alton Brown Drive-By Interview, after the jump.
Do you ever find yourself rooting for one competitor more than the others?
Sure. I tend to root for the chef who know hows to integrate the secret ingredient. I love it when chefs make sure every dish swings on the secret ingredient. I hate it when chefs take what I call "the garnish approach" and just add the secret ingredient to dishes they obviously serve in their restaurants. The chefs I root for more than anything else respect the food.
What do you do when you see chefs committing culinary suicide on the show?
Nothing. I think to myself that looks all fucked up. But that's all I can do. I don't get to vote. I will occasionally shoot one over the bow, say something that's probably inappropriately judgmental, but hopefully the judges don't notice.
Let's talk about the judges. I've judged a few times, and I have to say that sometimes I'm sitting next to a person who doesn't appear to be qualified to be judging.
There are certain judges who shouldn't be on the show, dude. It always comes down to having something smart to say. Just saying a dish is good or bad doesn't cut it. I will say that good judges are harder to find than good contestants.
On The Next Iron Chef, there are three permanent judges, Donatella Arpaia, a restaurateur; Andrew Knowlton, an editor at Bon Appétit, magazine; and Michael Ruhlman, a food writer and blogger. How does that affect what happens on the show?
I loved having three really good judges on the show. Why? The audience gets to know them, gets to hear more of their deliberations and conversations. Their interactions with each other become a big part of the show. They all have a different take on food, and over time their individual prejudices are exposed. Ruhlman is the culinary technique freak, Donatella is one formidable woman who doesn't back down from anyone, and Andrew Knowlton wants to be Jeffrey Steingarten, except he's not quite there yet. But it gets intense on The Next Iron Chef. It gets real spicy between Andrew and Michael. I can tell you there are almost fisticuffs.
What do you make of my friend (and regular Iron Chef America judge) Jeffrey Steingarten?
Jeffrey's been a hero of mine for many years. He's a freak, no one lives in the food world he inhabits. There is one lovable curmudgeon. I would have loved to have him as an uncle growing up. I know I would have gotten the best ice cream.
You seem to get the best out of him, which is not always easy.
I try to ask him questions he can give me a straight answer to, so I have to find some common ground I know he's interested in. In the end, I've discovered with Jeffrey that if he sees you as an ally, it's a lot easier to deal with him. Jeffrey can be vicious, but he's not mean.
If you were the Food Network overlord and could change Iron Chef America, what would you do to it?
I'm a process freak, so I would try to emphasize the inner workings of the chef teams competing. I would have a half-hour planning period after the chefs find out what the secret ingredient is, so that we could hear what their plan of attack is, and how they interact with each other.
What are your favorite moments on Iron Chef America?
What I love the most is when I see one of the teams start making something, and as it unfolds I guess right about what it is they're going to do. At that point, I think to myself that I'm not a dumbass.
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26 Comments:
Brand new member and I couldn't think of a better inaugural comment about my favorite FN personality. Thanks for the drive-by interview. I had the good fortune to meet & interview AB and I agree with your description: He gets right to the point and lays it out straight.
NB to AB: If you see this, I'm still working on the story and should be finished soon....
corinne at 9:51AM on 09/28/07
Corinne: Shoot us a link to the story when you're done (feedback@seriouseats.com). Would love to read it.
Adam Kuban at 10:08AM on 09/28/07
Sure, Adam.
corinne at 10:44AM on 09/28/07
Awesome! AB dropped an F-bomb! Alton Brown is one of the few reasons I still tune into the Food Network, and I'm looking very forward to this new show.
Marvin at 10:55AM on 09/28/07
Alton said fucked. I may love him even more now that I know he shares my affinity for the grandaddy of all cuss words.
AB and the Barefoot Contessa are my FN faves because they are there for the food, not the hype.
AuntJone at 11:04AM on 09/28/07
I agree with Marvin's comment haha. I totally giggled when I saw that he said the words "fucked" & "dumbass". I would've never guessed that he speaks just like the rest of us. :)
JadedOne at 11:22AM on 09/28/07
AuntJone- couldn't agree more! AB and BC are my favorites on Food Network. Alton is right on when he says he thinks we should see more of the inner workings of Iron Chef. I rarely watch Food Network anymore, because it is not gritty enough. It tries to be too polished( ok-maybe Ace of Cakes is gritty) I kind of miss it, and hope it finds its' new identity soon.
Mich23 at 11:27AM on 09/28/07
The one thing I don't really like about the upcoming "next iron chef" is that ruhlman is a judge and michael symon is a contestant. ruhlman might as well be symon's agent he promotes him so much in his books and any shows that he is on(recent bourdain in cleveland for example). Don't get me wrong, I think symon deserves to be on the show, he is a great chef. I just find it hard to believe ruhlman could be impartial to symon's work. And I'd bet a dollar that the near fisticuffs that ensue on the show are ruhlman's disagreements over symon's cooking.
logicalmind at 12:25PM on 09/28/07
All I really have to say is that I love Alton Brown - I have been a fan forever, and my dream job would be to build props on his show. I was so sad when I moved out to LA, and I realized his show is based on the East Coast! Oh well - if I am ever in Atlanta, I know who to look up. Oh, and AB, if you want to do your Feasting on Asphalt on the West Coast, I can crew that show up for you in two seconds (including post) - not that you need my help!
foodette at 1:37PM on 09/28/07
Good Eats is the only show on Food Network that I Tivo. Long live the AB!
lysine at 2:04PM on 09/28/07
Really. AB is the best. whenever I look up a recipe in the FoodTV database, if there is more than one version available, I choose Alton's. His recipe and all his suggestions are realistic and sensible.
annien at 5:55PM on 09/28/07
Hey, if Iron Chef America is hard up for judges, I'll gladly sacrifice my palate in the interest of the greater good.
ErikaWaz at 9:41PM on 09/28/07
I kind of find it hard to believe Alton said the F-bomb, DUDE, & Dumbass...
You sure you weren't embelishing?
tyronebcookin at 11:07AM on 09/29/07
as i commented on blog.ruhlman.com, regarding the michael symon conflict of interest questions, I will give a brief answer here and a more complete response later, when the show begins to air. It wasn't as difficult as it might have been. If anything, with only one significant exception, it was more of a detriment to symon to have me on the panel.
ruhlman at 10:29AM on 09/30/07
I loved the drive by interview with AB. I have watched him from the beginning, I have his cookbooks, I even have his autograph and a wonderful picture of him with my very chunky daughter when she was about 9 months old. I waited in line for 3 hours with a 9month old baby just to get a signed copy of his cookbook and a picture!
What I want to see now from AB is him competing against an iron chef! I would love to see a battle between AB and Mario.
Vlntchr at 8:51PM on 09/30/07
the ruhlman and symon connection seems to be strong if you've read a couple of ruhlman's books. it tends to make me believe that symon has an upperhand in winning (plus that maniacal laugh he showed on No Reservations makes him hands down the favorite).
when halliburton got contracts from the us gov't, some people cried foul b/c it seemed like there was conflict of interest. or lets say you're an actual judge and your close friend commits a crime and you get assigned to rule on the case. i think most judges recuse themselves. in the end though, it's just a friggin show and not real life.
and who thought it was possible for Alton to increase his cool quotient?
foodinmouth at 10:29AM on 10/01/07
Alton says 'fuck', 'dude', and 'dumbass'. I love it! I've been an Alton fan for many years and it's great to see any new series with him as commentator. I didn't know Ruhlman was going to be a judge on NTCA either, even more reason for me to watch.
sacrebleu at 11:29AM on 10/01/07
Regarding the judging on Iron Chef America. I would like to see the judges NOT observe the competition and judge the dishes blindly. That would eliminate any favoritism. Just a thought.
CarolynS at 8:49AM on 10/03/07
Hi,
I have never understood why, THE CHAIRMAN, Mark Dacascos, has
never gotten a vote on the food as he is "THE CHAIRMAN" and why
he wasn't more involved in choosing HIS "NEXT IRON CHEF" as it
is suppose to be "HIS" stadium..Just dont't get that part and am
really disappointed Mark didn't get a bigger part of the show..
mentdijinn at 11:04AM on 11/01/07
Hi again,
Left somethng out of my first message.. I can't understand why
they choose people who aren't really associated with the food
industry to judge the food either.. It is really hard to watch the ones
who aren't struggle for the words they want to use to describe something..
But since they do i think that it would be fun if THE CHAIRMAN would
go up into the little audience they have there and choose someone
each show to guest judge.. Just a regular audience member and have
him choose someone become part of the show..
mentdijinn at 11:09AM on 11/01/07
Tickled to death to hear Alton talking like a real guy. I, too, would like to build/engineer some props for his show. Got any use for a toolmaker, Alton? I would love to see a fistfight between Andrew and Michael...wouldn't that be fun? I love the Iron Chef shows...and I especially enjoyed the episode with Kerry Simon against Cat Cora because he brought his own fan club, a.k.a. Bill Murray & Co. I think there should always be a live audience.
clusterfok at 10:08PM on 11/02/07
Loved the interview, albeit small. It was nice to hear his take on Jeffrey. Sometimes while watching the banter between Jeffrey and the other judges I squirm at the obvious tension and what appears to be a desire to lean over and slap him across the face. It’s like a train wreck, I mean I want to change the channel …. But, then I might miss the cat fight if I do.
Lastly I love A.B & Good Eats, I’ve been a fan from the start, I even have the salt cellar to prove it….looking forward to many more years from your show.
esspressomeup at 4:21AM on 11/11/07
Loved the interview! I love watching Good Eats!! My kids are 2,4, and 5 and they love it, too. There are so many "artsy" food shows on, what I love it the history, and science of good tasting food. Thank you Alton!!! I love the groundedness (if that is a word) that he brought to the Next Iron Chef. All I can say is if A.B. is in it, I'll watch it!!
drj070212 at 10:29AM on 11/13/07
I'm appalled that a seemingly intelligent and artitculate man like Alton Brown would need to resort to the "F bomb" in expressing himself. And I'm amazed that anyone would find this vocabulary praiseworthy. If you like that kind of language, watch HBO.
valjean1112 at 1:48PM on 11/13/07
^^^Wow, a tad judgmental aren't we? Please come back and add a comment when you climb down from your high horse.
Great interview, love Alton.
Grovite at 10:11AM on 12/28/07
I DO watch HBO and enjoy it very much--as I enjoy FN and I think the point is, we don't expect Alton to use the F-word because he is always seems so articulate--"oh, bother" rather than what most of us would say--it's kind of like hearing your parents say the F-word--you don't expect it so it's kind of funny. And it's just a word.
Donnamarie at 11:48PM on 05/04/09